Author Topic: New arena format Part 2 - Use this thread, don't open duplicates (Read 40886 times)

BTW · « **Reply #420 on:** September 16, 2006, 02:39:15 PM »

It reminds me of a doctor telling me "this won't hurt a bit"

It reminds me of the insurance agent telling me "This isn't a rate increase."

It reminds me of a politician telling me "Its not ethical to keep all promises."

"Two main arenas may seem like an oxymoron, but it isn't."

Er I think it is. But I'm sure it won't hurt a bit:aok

Seriously, I hope it isn't over management. I've seen web sites and games die because of over management. "This goes here, that goes there - get this out of here and put it over there! What - we only got THREE theres! We need more! Make 40 topics! Make 20 arenas! More is better!" Pretty soon people say ^&*$% it - cya.

BaldEagl · « **Reply #421 on:** September 16, 2006, 02:51:58 PM »

I just want to offer my opinion for what it's worth after a couple of days of this.

1. I think you should have limited it to early-mid war and mid-late war arenas. So far the mid-war arena seems sparsly populated plus, once this change was accepted adding a mid-war arena later would be easier.

2. Please bring back the large arenas soon. I've always thought as I logged on; "Damn, we're in one of those stupid small arenas". Imagine how I feel now knowing that's all there is.

3. I'm looking forward to possibly seeing WW1 and Korea again (ala Air Warriors). It's been a long time.

4. What ever happened to the A-26?

lazs2 · « **Reply #422 on:** September 16, 2006, 02:53:48 PM »

mugs and raider... first off.. I never said that any arena would be more popular than any other.... I think that new planes will be added and they will be early war and that will make for some influx.

even so.. the early and mid war arenas are easily as many people as the late.. even if they were only a third... that means that at least 1/3 to more than half either was fed up with the old ma and behavior or... just wants to fly early planes without 190d's B &Zing em.. it was boring and frustrating to most of us who flew the slower planes.

The fixes that HT included were ones that everyone asked for not just the newbie former MA lovers and 190d, lala and 51 guys. They were good changes and I am glad that it helped you round up all your soul mates so that you wouldn't get all lonely and such..

They were changes everyone wanted and they were needed.

and... please.. break up your posts with some paragraphs.. I probly missed half what you said.

oh... and someone wondered about the runway kills... like they never seen runway divers? I fly an FM2 mostly and.. in the old MA.. the only fights mostly included some sort of a capped field... no real fights ever broke out unless by accident and when they did... the runway divers were allways there in short order to get in some risk free vultches... caurse... they were just flying "realisticaly" I suppose.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Mugzeee · « **Reply #423 on:** September 16, 2006, 02:55:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Well considering half of this BBS if full of whines from players crying how FUBARed the game play was in the MA, maybe HiTech was responding to community whines...err I mean crying..errr demands to do something.

I guess some just can't live without their La7s and the security blanket of the hord.

ack-ack

Well. actually the whines of the past were from the "Pure fighter" guys...now that the otherside of the community are being effected..we see many many guys are responding that rarely have posted before.
In light of that i think we can all see who the constant cry babies of the HTC BBS are. Opinions of the few...

Mugzeee · « **Reply #424 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:02:21 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
mugs and raider... first off.. I never said that any arena would be more popular than any other.... I think that new planes will be added and they will be early war and that will make for some influx.

even so.. the early and mid war arenas are easily as many people as the late.. even if they were only a third... that means that at least 1/3 to more than half either was fed up with the old ma and behavior or... just wants to fly early planes without 190d's B &Zing em.. it was boring and frustrating to most of us who flew the slower planes.

The fixes that HT included were ones that everyone asked for not just the newbie former MA lovers and 190d, lala and 51 guys. They were good changes and I am glad that it helped you round up all your soul mates so that you wouldn't get all lonely and such..

They were changes everyone wanted and they were needed.

and... please.. break up your posts with some paragraphs.. I probly missed half what you said.

oh... and someone wondered about the runway kills... like they never seen runway divers? I fly an FM2 mostly and.. in the old MA.. the only fights mostly included some sort of a capped field... no real fights ever broke out unless by accident and when they did... the runway divers were allways there in short order to get in some risk free vultches... caurse... they were just flying "realisticaly" I suppose.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

If I were being graded on grammar and writing skills, i would give a chit. But I am not. So I don't

Raider179 · « **Reply #425 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:07:23 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2

oh... and someone wondered about the runway kills... like they never seen runway divers? I fly an FM2 mostly and.. in the old MA.. the only fights mostly included some sort of a capped field... no real fights ever broke out unless by accident and when they did... the runway divers were allways there in short order to get in some risk free vultches... caurse... they were just flying "realisticaly" I suppose.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

Isn't your K/D like 4:1? Not exactly the stats I would expect from someone who gets vulched all the time. Perhaps you are exaggerating or lying to reinforce your position on the EW arena???? Hmmm? me thinks so...

Mugzeee · « **Reply #426 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:14:54 PM »

My last post. ~~all:)~~

hubsonfire · « **Reply #427 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:31:41 PM »

Even more conspiracy and "HT's just trying to piss us off" posts. This is phenomenal.

Guppy35 · « **Reply #428 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:38:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Mugzeee
Well. actually the whines of the past were from the "Pure fighter" guys...now that the otherside of the community are being effected..we see many many guys are responding that rarely have posted before.
In light of that i think we can all see who the constant cry babies of the HTC BBS are. Opinions of the few...

How is the 'other side' affected? LW is still the same as the MA was. So it's not 500 people. There is nothing stopping you from doing exactly what you like to do.

In fact, there is nothing in the other arenas from stopping you doing it as well other then the late war high speed cannon beasts aren't there.

So again, what was lost? The potential for 500 people in an arena. That's it. And last I saw Pyro said they'd adjust the arena caps as needed once things settled.

So what was lost?

Now there is more choice and a better opportunity for all the planes to get used. What is wrong with that?

And don't tell me that you could do that in the old MA. Taking a Spit 1 up against 16s, N1Ks and LA7s is NOT the same as taking it up against 109Es, Zekes etc.

USRanger · « **Reply #429 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:42:52 PM »

I think the addition of a GV arena is a good one, since we no longer have our beloved tanktown map(s). And I KNOW TT was popular! I also think the GV arena maps would/could be some of the neatest maps we'd have. Current options for GVers, since the change, to have a good big ol' brawl is very limited. It would also get us outta the pure-flyboys' hairs!

iculus · « **Reply #430 on:** September 16, 2006, 03:48:01 PM »

I was surprised to log on and see this format. I'm absolutely loving it. I was considering killing my subscription to AH because I never flew in the MA... just the 8-player. The old MA was too plain-jane... same ol' same ol' every time.

I've never had this much fun with AH since the beta days. I can't wait to explore the new arrangement.

Thanks!!
-IC

skernsk · « **Reply #431 on:** September 16, 2006, 04:02:22 PM »

I love the new arenas, leave them alone, don't go back to the old MA style.

Now get cracking on some new 'small' terrains for 250 players max and get some decent 'squad comms' where a player can log in and see where his squaddies are before selecting an arena.

Sloehand · « **Reply #432 on:** September 16, 2006, 04:47:41 PM »

Nothing wrong with the basic concept of the new arenas, and its great HiTech fixed some things today.
However, my squad is find two significant problems still. First, don't know for sure, but buildings, hangars and strat doesn't seem to stay down as long as it used to. Has it been changed? And if so, to what?
Biggest problem is though, with smaller limits and 3 arenas the numbers get out of wack quickly, especially as the ENY limits are still set for larger limit arenas. In the Late War, which is the only place to take up a Niki among others, the ENY, though it does fluctuate, has been too consistantly at 20 to 26. This with the high side having 70 and the low side having maybe45-50. Lots of players play this game for a small set of planes, and if you can't get them in the Late War Arena you're pretty much done playing.
In other words, the ENY is condition is too sensitive now, and with the smaller arenas, may not be as important a leveling factor as it was. Maybe, it should be revised a bit.
I see no point in playing in the Late Arena, if all you can do is fight the better planes with older planes. And as many people have no interest in flying the older planes, it's sit and wait for the ENY to come down or do nothing. It's just the same problem as before, just happens more often on a smaller scale. It's a game killer for many people.

Have · « **Reply #433 on:** September 16, 2006, 04:59:20 PM »

Flew today first time in the new early war arena and really like it! Great planes and great fights, yay! This was an excellent change and a definite improvement over the earlier MA

KAntti · « **Reply #434 on:** September 16, 2006, 05:08:07 PM »

I say this: screuw the old MA, the EWA RULEZ!!!