How much longer????

[Neubob]

Is the world going to let Islam hold it prisoner?

I feel like the rest of the world is the parents, while Islam is the 13-year old girl with a bad case of acne. You can't say a damned thing to her regarding anything without it leading to hysterics, and very often, even when you don't say a word, the hysterics arise from nowhere.

This time the Pope opened his mouth. he utters a few poorly-chosen words--words, that I might add, are actually not too far off point--and all the sudden, a wave of fear  at the potential response that followers this religion will generate spreads across the globe. This is a religion of a billion followers. They're not being threatened by extermination. They have no reason to behave desperately. If anything, they're beloved Jews should be on a fanatical rampage.

They're outraged by comments such as these, yet themselves throw around phrases like 'Death to America" and "death to the infidels" as if they're campaign slogans. They complain that the Pope may, in fact, be promoting Judeo-Christian religions beliefs over those of Islam, and yet can justify the dismemberment of 'non-believers', by explosive.

More and more each day, it seems that Muslims are becoming angrier, less civilized, less tolerant, and closer to an all-out frenzy. They've reserved the right, for themselves, to resort to any measure, whatsoever, not just to prove their point, but simply to attract attention to the fact that exist.

Perhaps it's time we stopped the coddling, and went out on a Muslim style-rally against Islam. Perhaps we burn some effigies, burn some flags and images of religions symbols. Perhaps we adopt some sort of headdress signifying that we're sick and tired of this childish insanity. Instead of pulling punches, perhaps its time we put the world of Islam on notice that unless there is change, soon, insanity will be answered with insanity... Perhaps I'm dreaming.

As a side note. I'd think that a good percentage of these wackos would appreciate Hitler for what he did to the Jews. It's Ironic that now they're comparing him to somebody they clearly don't like.

[Seagoon]

Hi Neubob,

Yeah poor old Benedict forgot rule #2

Rule #1 - Anyone can say anything they want about Christians, Christ, and Christianity because we all know they most they will do is attempt to organize an ineffectual boycott and write some letters to the editor, and maybe even insert a "roll-eyes" or two in a blog post.

Rule #2 - Everybody had better say positive and laudatory things about Muslims, Muhammad, and Islam regardless of what it is doing, has done, or is threatening to do because we all know that if they don't the entire Umma will go completely ape and riot and accelerate the pace at which they are currently murdering infidels.

Rule #3 - If you accidently violate Rule #2, you must scrape and bow and take back everything you said regardless of how true it is, in order that normal relations might once again resume between Islam and the rest of the world. ["Normal relations" consisting of the ordinary, orderly progress of the neverending Jihad.]

Ok everyone, time for us to bow and scrape and cringe and apologize yet again. Man you'd think we were already Dhimmis.

Incidently, these were the "words" that Benedict quoted, which are literally nothing compared to what we hear every week from Imams and leaders like Ahmadinejad:

"Benedict quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said. "He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

Benedict did not explicitly agree with the statement nor repudiate it.

Source: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060915/D8K5ADM80.html

When, oh when will we actually stand-up and be willing to say,
"We are free men. Our forefathers fought and died that their children might be able to write and say what they believe, we are not your slaves yet and until that day comes we will continue to exercise and cherish that God-given liberty which we have inherited."

[nirvana]

Try telling it to them Neubob.  Best done with a cable feed from a remote location, just in case.


It's a double standard, like was said in the Hot For teacher thread, life is full of double standards.

[Flatbar]

All religions suck, which one sucks more depends on where in the world you are living.

[lukster]

Originally posted by Flatbar
All religions suck, which one sucks more depends on where in the world you are living.

Humans apparently cannot exist without religion. In the abbsence of more traditional religions new religions like liberalism and secular humanism dominate.

[Debonair]

and football

[Toad]

Relax, we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Toad
Relax, we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet.

[detch01]

Originally posted by Toad
Relax, we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet.

LOL but we're going to - they will insist on it.




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[Toad]

It continues to amaze me.

I would never have thought we're so hard to figure out.

I think you're probably right. They'll mistake what they are seeing until they finally add the last straw. Then it's 'Katy, bar the door'.

[Engine]

You have to understand that to most Muslims, humiliation is worse than death. They would view the deaths of 5,000 Muslims irrelevant compared to a cartoon about Allah.

[Toad]

I am secretly preparing over 500 million different Mohammed cartoons using 27 different media for distribution.

If things get really bad, I'll unleash the hounds.

[Elfie]

They complain that the Pope may, in fact, be promoting Judeo-Christian religions beliefs over those of Islam

Surprised no one else caught this.


Why in the world, would the Pope.....promote Islam over Christianity? As head of the Catholic church he's suppossed to promote Catholism over Islam.....duh...

[Seagoon]

Hi Toad,

Originally posted by Toad
It continues to amaze me.

I would never have thought we're so hard to figure out.

I think you're probably right. They'll mistake what they are seeing until they finally add the last straw. Then it's 'Katy, bar the door'.

I admire your confidence in this, I really do, but I just don't think its going to happen, especially in Europe.

Historically, Europe today parallels Rome at the time of the Barbarian conquests in many respects. Both were/are decadent, weak, and forced to allow their historic enemies to settle within her borders both for political reasons and in order to make up a shortage of manpower. At present Muslims continue to emmigrate into Europe at an increasing rate, and those that already live there are outbreeding native Europeans (who aren't even replacing themselves) at an alarming rate. In fact, to conquer Europe in a century, they don't need to do anything at all other than continue to move there and have large families. Smaller countries like Holland are already being overwhelmed, and many areas of European cities are effectively unpoliceable and increasingly governed by Islamic law. They are not assimilating into European culture, and in terms of religion and philosophy Europe really has nothing to oppose Islam with - at least nothing as compelling having by and large abandoned the Christian faith over a century ago and embraced instead philosophies of meaninglessness and loss of hope like existentialism, materialism, and outright nihilism.  

Europe is not going to confront Islam any more than Rome near the end was likely to try to pick a fight with the Barbarian tribes, and with each passing year they are weaker while their likely future rulers are stronger. The strategy at present is akin to trying to survive without making the Bears living in your house angry. Hopefully if I keep feeding them and being nice to them and pretending I don't see when they rip an arm off of a family member, they won't eat me. The problem is, that like real bears would, they are simply becoming bolder and less scared of taking over the house.

So, it comes down to America, and I don't think that anything short of Nuke will embolden us to really get serious either. In some senses what the intel guys are reported to have said after 9/11 is true - "They didn't kill enough people" and we've been too successfull in stopping their further attempts to do so.

This is a war that is going to be won not by the side with more guns and tanks and planes, this is a war that will be won by the side that perseveres in the conflict for longer, and we are dealing with an ideology that has persevered in the violent pursuit of their ultimate goals for 14 centuries. By comparison, can we even keep this up for a decade? I doubt it.

So I think for us it'll be resist, appease, capitulate. That has historically been the course followed by the enemies of Islam since the Meccan tribes incidently.

I dunno, I should probably look on the bright side, I like Khebabs and Gyros, we both dislike atheism in academics, and Burkas certainly will help with our Canadians on vacation in Daytona wearing Speedos and "does this make me look fat?" problems.

[bj229r]

Europe would be afraid to confront those obnoxious guys on the bicycles who solicit for the Mormon church