Muslims dont like the Pope

[Stang]

So how old is the Earth?  I'm curious to see how old storchita, Seagoon and other Creationists believe it is.  And please back your assertion up with evidence other than religious writings.  

Thanks.  I'm really just curious.  This isn't meant to be a troll in any way.

[Angus]

Something for creationists:
http://www.mbl.is/mm/frettir/togt/frett.html?nid=1224750

Press "spila"

Enjoy

[storch]

Originally posted by Angus
Something for creationists:
http://www.mbl.is/mm/frettir/togt/frett.html?nid=1224750

Press "spila"

Enjoy

again we have multi million year old estimate of the age of the remains quoted in the same breath in which they tell you this simian was drowned and covered in a flood.  bones sitting in moisture get covered with microbes that penetrate.  these microbes are known to generate unreliable readings in C14 dating.  that is of course aside from the fact that any date beyond 50,000 years is all but a guess as there is no C14 present in anything beyond that.

another very good example of sloppy science, at best.  follow the story as it goes through the peer review process.

generally speaking with just about every new piece of "evidence" this is the process it undergoes.  a fanatastic find is made.  initially spectacularly wild claims are publicized which catch the general publics imagination.  the results turn out to prove the wild claims as just such but nothing is ever said again publically.  in the interim the layman is left with precisely the impression these disingenous members of the scientific community wanted us to have.

if you are really interested and have the time follow up on the 1974 "lucy" find.  read what was said and what the opinions regarding lucy are today.

[Angus]

I don't have to wander far to see something old, - really old.
Layers on top of layers of earth and lava, each layer of earth mounting to thousands of years of vegetation.
I dig a kanal, I see layers and layers from volcanic eruptions, - but a mere meter down I am already thousands of years back. I go further to find remains of floodings older than man's history, then I am down to an old seabed. Looking uphill I will see mountains that once were seacliffs.
Geology has always been a thorn in the side of the 6000 years belivers. I even read a book about it, - published by the jehova witness movement..

[storch]

I'm not saying the earth is only 6,000 years old.  I'm saying that nothing proves that it is millions of years old conclusively.

[Angus]

So starting what period?

[storch]

forgive me but I don't understand the question.

[BTW]

I've read the little pamphlets ( and years ago they used comic books for awhile) attempting to debunk carbon dating and the previous existence of dinosaurs. What struck me was how thin these books were debunking so much science. Volumes of astronomy, physics, geology, and anthropology neatly explained away in a 75 page pamphlet.

I think only a fool uses the Bible to educate himself in science. I don't believe that's its purpose. I also don't think the purpose of the Bible is to debunk science.

[storch]

what is there to debunk about carbon darting?  there are physical, verifiable limitions to this method.  the facts are there using mathematics and science, not the bible.  

the practitoners of the darwininan religion would have you think otherwise.  their high priests are quick to attack with ad hominem and banishment at any all who don't march in lockstep.  they are rabid defenders of their faith and their methods of dealing with detractors are reminiscent of the tactics first employed during the spanish inquistion.

look up carbon 14 dating and learn of it's uses and limitations.

[BTW]

Originally posted by storch


look up carbon 14 dating and learn of it's uses and limitations.

I'd suggest you do this. Then look up other ways scientists date things. Then look up why they date things and what they expect to find. Then look up what they do when they find something unexpected. If you aren't careful, you might run head on into the *scientific method*

[AKH]

Originally posted by BTW
I'd suggest you do this. Then look up other ways scientists date things. Then look up why they date things and what they expect to find. Then look up what they do when they find something unexpected. If you aren't careful, you might run head on into the *scientific method*

God forbid!

[storch]

ok

here's what I'm familiar with if you know of others please supply me info that I might read up on.  I'm always ready to learn.

anyways these are the dating methods that I have a layman's understanding of.

counting tree rings
carbon 14
radioisotope
K-Ar
isochron

which would you like to discuss first?

[indy007]

wtf does Creationism, Darwinism, the scientific method, carbon 14, and fossils have to do with Muslims rioting about the Pope's comments to prove they're non-violent?

Just cuz we're flying off-topic though...

Originally posted by AWMac
It's time you Americans to raise up and make it a Free Amerircan Nation.
In GOD we Trust, One Nation under GOD, time for prayer in school and sports. Are you so Blind?

Who gets to pick what God we're one nation under? Can't be Christian. I did a search through the Constitution. Didn't find one mention of Jesus or  Christ. For that matter, I didn't find Allah, Ra, Peko, Aplu, Ukko, Zeus, Tupa, Tia, Brahman, Prithivi, Parvati, Mama Cocha, Pele, Cupid, Julius Caesar (yes, he was deified), Mot, O-Wata-Tsu-Mi, Waheguru, Great Mother, or Oya either.

Can we go with this one?

[storch]

I find a god that looks like a crab unappealing.  the darwinists are in need of an icon for their god, pitch it to them.

[eskimo2]

If there’s one thing I just can’t stand its intolerant people; I’d like to kill them all.