1 fight and done...

[KTM520guy]

That has to be a record in Mid War. I've never seen more than 70 in there.

[Hades55]

Originally posted by MIShill
This is beginning to remind me of Air Warrior, with a few guys in WWI (EWA equiv) & a few guys in Korea, with the rest in the main arena. It was ok, but most only went to the other arenas when they couldn't go where they wanted to play.
-MI-

 

AW is dead for a reason

[Mugzeee]

Originally posted by SlapShot
No doubt ... altho you are overstating when you say ... "alot".

What would your take of "alot" be  20? 40? 100?

[Wilbus]

Originally posted by SFCHONDO
I'm NOT....I hear 10x more negative statements then positive ones.

Ever considered the fact that you might be hearing what you want to hear?

[cav58d]

Originally posted by Wilbus
Ever considered the fact that you might be hearing what you want to hear?

Have you Wilbus?  Dont call us crazy, because you are the one's who wont even accept that a portion of the community actually does have a problem...open your eyes

[Yeager]

hmmmm.....Im feeling a Pink FLoyd song swelling in my prostate

[scottydawg]

Originally posted by Hades55
AW is dead for a reason

Yeah, it's called Electronic Arts.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Toad
Wha-choo talkin' 'bout Willis?

Sunday Night, 2100 Central

EW - 60
MW- 202
LW1 -238
LW2 -59

Looks like ~ 47% can get along just fine without LW.

And 60 on a small map is plenty.... if players are looking for a fight.

If they're hiding from a fight...well, speaks for itself as to gameplay.

Seem to remember the old MA on a Sunday night would get 650+ players on, 200+ per country.

Lot of us (40 Bish anyway, can't speak Knits)) were in the MW arena last night just to stop the Rooks, so don't read too much into those numbers.

Could also say the people who are the most happiest (furballers) only consist of 10% (60) of the community.
Shows how you can skew figures.

[Guppy35]

What's been funny to me is each time I enter one of the arenas, the moaning and wailing is going on both on country and 200, yet they're still there playing the game.

I asked one guy who was particularly verbal about his complaints why he was still flying.

The reply was essentially that he had nothing better to do, which was a sad commentary on his state of affairs in itself.

If the change is as bad as the moaning and wailing would suggest, those same folks are going to cancel their accounts and go elsewhere.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Guppy35
What's been funny to me is each time I enter one of the arenas, the moaning and wailing is going on both on country and 200, yet they're still there playing the game.

I asked one guy who was particularly verbal about his complaints why he was still flying.

The reply was essentially that he had nothing better to do, which was a sad commentary on his state of affairs in itself.

If the change is as bad as the moaning and wailing would suggest, those same folks are going to cancel their accounts and go elsewhere.

If there was decent competition you never know.
But there isn't.

And thats the crux of the whole matter.

Bit like good old Uncle Bill and Windows, yup there are other OS's out there, but basically for the moment your stuck with Windows.
Probably a bad analogy, but you should get the drift.

[Guppy35]

I guess I just don't see what all the fuss is about.  The only thing different that I can see is there aren't 500 people in an arena.  Instead you have 250.

I have yet, in my few excursions in to Latewar, seen anything but what I remember the MA to be.  ENY gripes were going on with 500 people too.  Rolling up bases doesn't seem to have changed.  I sure saw the horde at work in there.  The choice of aircraft is the same, and it's mainly LA7s, Spit 16s, N1Ks and 51s that i see, all doing the things they've always done.

So the beef seems to be wanting 500 people.

The nice thing for me is that it gives me more options.  I can find a fight in all the arenas but now I know the variety of aircraft I'll see is better.

It does seem like the numbers skew in every arena, but that's the players fault because of a percieved loyalty to a chess piece, or needing a feeling of safety in numbers, or ultimately that 'need' to roll the undefended bases to 'win the war'

I wonder sometimes if the number of bases that could be captured was limited to a certain number in each country if you wouldn't create more fights.  First the goal is to get the other guys base, next is to hold the line you've taken into the other guys turf. At a certain point you know you've gone as far as you can, now you have to hold it. You'd be channeling the fights into certain areas and negating the impact of those who milkrun empty bases.  

The notion of 'win the war' would be replaced by the notion of 'holding the line".   Folks still get base capture, but the air combat would also be intensified I think and the effort to take and hold those bases that could be taken would take more coordination and effort.

Oh well, wishful thinking I'm sure

As a side note, I do believe the 250 cap will in the end help build a better community in each arena as the tone of the people in those arenas is passed on to folks coming in the door.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Guppy35
As a side note, I do believe the 250 cap will in the end help build a better community in each arena as the tone of the people in those arenas is passed on to folks coming in the door.

Yet to see a difference, still the same old, ack weeny, ho'er, runner, etc etc on CH200.
Only difference now is I can see it in 3 arenas .

[bkbandit]

right on the nail.

I just dont like when im forced to fly another room to find a fight, u end up in the lwa anyway(the old style m/a) so whats the point.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Yet to see a difference, still the same old, ack weeny, ho'er, runner, etc etc on CH200.
Only difference now is I can see it in 3 arenas .

In the end it's still going to come down to the player base to set the tone.  In the lower cap arenas, I'm hopeful that the vets can get the message across to improve the quality of play.  My hope was it would be easier to hear those voices among the 250 then it ever was within 500

I was happy early on in Midwar as folks were asking before diving in on a 1 v 1, HO'ing was seen by most as a classless move.  You could tell at the merge that guys were going to fight, not HO and GO.  200 was a much more pleasant conversation etc

I'm not sure it's sticking though as lately it seems the overwhelming number side, win the reset, capture all the fields crowd has moved in.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Yet to see a difference, still the same old, ack weeny, ho'er, runner, etc etc on CH200.
Only difference now is I can see it in 3 arenas .

In my experience, Kev, you're one of those guys spouting the same old BS. So yeah, you're going to find that kind of thing. That should go without saying.