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[Mini D]

In Portland, the school system receives aproximately $9,300 for every student per year. A voucher system works that whomever receives the student gets that money.

[lazs2]

funked.. are you saying that the government should fund on schools at all and that the tax burden for every taxpayer should be reduced by that amount?

That would be ideal so far as anti socialist but... would work about as well as no army or federal police at all.

How do you charge people at the pump for education or armies?   Do we all benifiet from educated Americans?

Perhaps not... perhaps those who can't afford education could do the work that we are importing illegals to do now?

We would have to decide that but....

In any case.. the public school system is broken and vouchers are a huge step towards the cure.   Parents would not have absolute say because... parents aren't footing the absolute bill... the people are... many who have no children are footing the bill.  sooooooo.... they have a right to expect "standards" for their money.... just as we all have the right to expect our gas tax money to build roads that meet standards.

We contract out for roads.   are roads more important than the education of our children?  again... we have to decide that.

It would make sense to have a vote on if and how we fund schools.   Everyone pays... everyone votes.

lazs

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lazs2
In any case.. the public school system is broken and vouchers are a huge step towards the cure.

lazs

Well, I guess that depends on where you live, the school my kids are in is great.


Mini says he would get a $9300.00 voucher for the year, so at least I got one question answered. But a alot go unanswered.

How can you say a voucher system will work without showing me how it will work? Show me the plan, the whole plan. How can you expect people to vote for a blind item?

[lukster]

To start the plan is simple. Let those who want to send their kids to a private school apply for a voucher. If the school meets established state requirements then a portion of the money paid to the public school for that student in their current district is redirected to the private school of choice.

[lukster]

This is one of the best schools in Texas imo. Used to be one of my customers and I have spent some time on their campus. They are expensive but based on what I've seen you should still be able to get quality education for what is being spent by public schools.

http://www.smtexas.org/admission/affording/

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lukster

To start the plan is simple. Let those who want to send their kids to a private school apply for a voucher.

Ok, who builds these private schools to start and who funds them?

If the school meets established state requirements

Ok, so these schools will be regulated? What will those regulations be? Maximum class size? Criminal background checks for anyone employed or contracted by these schools? Will one company be allowed to have more than one school in a city? Can one company own all the schools and have a monopoly?

Will these schools be allowed to work as a business and go public? Will they cut corners for profit? Will they be allowed to work as a non profit and should they be?

I could go on and on with questions, it's not simple at all. What if it doesn't work, then what?

It is disturbing to think that people would vote for something and have no idea what the results will be.

Show me. Take a city, Portland, and let them do it for a period of 2 years, show me it works. Then I could make a decision with some peace of mind.

My kids go to a good school, I am not going to change that for something I have no idea will work or be better for them. I can't take that risk.

[lukster]

Originally posted by Sixpence
To start the plan is simple. Let those who want to send their kids to a private school apply for a voucher.

Ok, who builds these private schools to start and who funds them?

If the school meets established state requirements

Ok, so these schools will be regulated? What will those regulations be? Maximum class size? Criminal background checks for anyone employed or contracted by these schools? Will one company be allowed to have more than one school in a city? Can one company own all the schools and have a monopoly?

Will these schools be allowed to work as a business and go public? Will they cut corners for profit? Will they be allowed to work as a non profit and should they be?

I could go on and on with questions, it's not simple at all. What if it doesn't work, then what?

It is disturbing to think that people would vote for something and have no idea what the results will be.

Show me. Take a city, Portland, and let them do it for a period of 2 years, show me it works. Then I could make a decision with some peace of mind.

My kids go to a good school, I am not going to change that for something I have no idea will work or be better for them. I can't take that risk.

There are already in place many private schools, at least in Texas. I was not suggesting that the state regulate these schools. Only that if they want their students to receive vouchers the school should meet state standards for education. The same testing being used now in Texas public schools should suffice.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lukster
There are already in place many private schools, at least in Texas. .

So, there are enough private schools to accept every public student? Where you get this info?

Here in Saugus there is not one private school, and the surrounding cities only have one or two and could never handle the influx of all the public students

[lukster]

Originally posted by Sixpence
So, there are enough private schools to accept every public student? Where you get this info?

Here in Saugus there is not one private school, and the surrounding cities only have one or two and could never handle the influx of all the public students

Are you suggesting that there will be a huge run on private schools because everyone wants out of the public school system? If so then I think the sooner we grant vouchers the better. Private enterprise has a way of rising to the challenge.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lukster
Are you suggesting that there will be a huge run on private schools because everyone wants out of the public school system?

So, we are going to have both? This gets more confusing by the second. If you do away with the public system, where do they go?

Private enterprise has a way of rising to the challenge.

And this is your convincing argument? Well you are failing to convince me.

You fail to answer many of the questions and provide no plan to how it will work. And you want me to pull the rug(school) from under my kids feet for this?

The truth is, you have no idea how it will work and are just making a blind argument.

[lukster]

Of course we'll have both, at least for a while. We have both now. I suppose that private schools must be much more common in Texas than from wherever you hail.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lukster

Of course we'll have both, at least for a while.

Well, who gets to go to the private schools?

[lukster]

Originally posted by Sixpence
Of course we'll have both, at least for a while.

Well, who gets to go to the private schools?

Whoever wants to. That's the point of vouchers. As is now, only those who can afford to send their kids to private school do so.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by lukster
I was not suggesting that the state regulate these schools. Only that if they want their students to receive vouchers the school should meet state standards for education.  

One thing to think about:  state standards ARE regulation.

[Sixpence]

Originally posted by lukster
Whoever wants to. That's the point of vouchers. As is now, only those who can afford to send their kids to private school do so.

So everyone can go? We are going in circles