Author Topic: France to ban Public smoking? (Read 1608 times)

Yeager · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2006, 12:55:02 PM »

teh french aer invented pubic smokems

Rameusb5 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:16:19 PM »

So I can't "choose" to run around naked but I should be able to inflict cancer upon those around me?

Teh?

takeda · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:18:48 PM »

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We have banned it here in Spain this year,

did you clear this with the muslims? better be careful...

Yeah, they say they are OK with this and with the nudies in our museums too.

Airscrew · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:35:06 PM »

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laser... I never chose to have some jackwad giving me lung cancer from 2nd hand smoking.

Public spaces should be that: public. If people want to smoke.. which is THEIR private choice... they can go to a PRIVATE place and smoke there.

we did go to PRIVATE places, Restaurants and Bars are PRIVATE BUSINESSes, that provide services to the general public. PUBLIC place are like the Library, Parks, City Hall, and Convention Centers. Should the city, county, state, or Fed Gov have the right to legislate or prohibt legal behavior in a private place? Smoking is not illegal and neither is alcohol. Smoking is bad for you and so is alcohol. To smoke or not to smoke is a personal choice. Going to an establishment that allows smoking is a choice. Dont like it, go to an establishment that prohibts smoking. What was wrong with someone opening a non-smoking Bar that catered to the non-smoker? the way I see the Liberals/Greenie/Leftys missed out on a chance to add another tax. they could have allowed smoking bars and issued a license similar to a liquior licence.
go suck an egg...

RedRadr · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:47:01 PM »

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Yeah, they say they are OK with this and with the nudies in our museums too.

I dont know why I even ask, of course you did

cav58d · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2006, 01:51:05 PM »

Here in Connecticut I have been living under the confined spacing smoking ban for over 2 years and I love it!...I was a smoker at the time, and had absolutely no problem adjusting to the new law! Even as a smoker, I always found it nasty that a bar floor would be covered with cig butts, and the air freaking reek of 1000 cigarettes! In the past two years a lot of establishments here in Fairfield County have added patios with awnings for the smokers....

cpxxx · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:15:12 PM »

In most places with a smoking ban it is popular, even with smokers. It's an absolute pleasure to go out for the night and not return home smelling like an ashtray. Besides smokers who have to go outside for have taken up a new sport; 'smirting'. That is smoking and flirting outside the pubs. Great fun apparently. Not being a smoker I miss out on that aspect.

I was in France last week on vacation. I must say, I didn't find the bars or restaurants all that smokey. Despite the cliche, it seems the French like everyone else have mostly given up. I imagine France will take to it just like everyone else.

I just wish they would do something about their dogs though. You can't walk down any street with having to dodge the chien merde. ugh.

lazs2 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »

I hate the smoke but....

It is simple.... a public place is one the public owns... the public should be able to decide if there will be smoking or not..

A private place is one the public does not own... they have no right to decide if anyone smokes in these places or not.

lazs

Thrawn · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:27:42 PM »

Banning smoking in publicly owned places makes more sense to me than banning it in privately owned places like bars and restaurants.

john9001 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:35:03 PM »

bars and restaurants that banned smoking have seen a increase in business, i guess the "people" have spoken.

lazs2 · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2006, 02:55:43 PM »

john.. it that is the case then it would be bad bussines for a bar owner to allow smoking.

You shouldn't need a law.. you can just go and show him the studies and he will do your bidding.

Good idea, bad idea... it is his private property so he should be the one to decide... not the "people".

lazs

Vulcan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2006, 03:37:22 PM »

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Banning smoking in publicly owned places makes more sense to me than banning it in privately owned places like bars and restaurants.

I remember when smoking wasn't banned in private places like bars, cafes, and restaurants.

I remember when bars, cafes, and restaurants offered no smoking areas.

I remember when smokers completely ignored any requests not to smoke in those no smoking areas.

Its called karma. Smokers failed to respect others right to a bit of fresh air, heck they still fail. I walk outside our building to find a regular gathering of smokers crowded around the exits forming their own little cloud of pollution, not to mention the stubs they leave all over the place rather than walk 3 metres away to put it in a bin (which has an ashtray thingie on top).

Karma baby... karma.

Dago · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2006, 04:13:41 PM »

Ironic that smokers get all high-horse about their rights to smoke, but completely ignore the rights of non-smokers to live, eat and breath in a cleaner healthier environment.

Smoking stinks, is dangerous to health in almost every way, causes cancer, contributes greatly to littering and filth. Tell me again why someone thinks it is a good idea?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2006, 04:39:41 PM »

Because it makes you look cool.

ack-ack

Debonair · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2006, 04:40:15 PM »

farting bothers me more than smoking