Author Topic: Cherry Picking (Read 4366 times)

FALCONWING · « **Reply #30 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:52:37 AM »

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Originally posted by drkorf
Hmm, your use of females and children to form an insult is pretty weak, tuff guy. What next, gonna pick on old people? These boards would be more entertaining with more witty banter and less drivel.

This would be drivel:lol

you've got me pegged ...im a chauvinist agist:rolleyes:

Oldman731 · « **Reply #31 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:47:45 AM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
Many will not comment about it on 200, but on squad or among friends the comments will go something like this:

Great stick #1- You still up?
Great stick #2- Nah got picked by teh lamer picker dweeb
Great stick #1- Yeah, there's plenty of them over there
Great stick #2- What ride next?

4) Like I said earlier, its part of the growing phase and perfectly fair and acceptable gameplay.

Heh, I have heard such conversations.

I also agree that there's nothing inherently wrong with the pickers, except that I'd think they would get bored after a short while.

- oldman

lazs2 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 04, 2006, 08:05:28 AM »

I think that skyrock has got the defenition down to a tee.

If you read every post he has made in this thread you will have the defenition of a cherry picker. I believe that his defenitions simply make some people uncomfortable.

I would add that a cherry picker is someone who never gets low enough or slow enough that he can't run away from any plane in the area at will.

skyrock nails it on saying that it is an excuse to use "WWII" pilots as an excuse... very few flew so timidly and none that I know of did it all the time... they were very brave and confident men... to claim that your timid cherry picking is in imitation of them is insulting to their memories.

The "skill" involved in cherry picking is being able to select the fastest plane and the patience to climb and wait for the perfect fight to cherry pick... some gunnery skill is needed. You also need to know when there is the slightest chance someone will catch you so that you pull up your skirts and run all the way home... often begging for help from countrymen.

skyrock fights like he describes... he may come in high in a mediocre plane but ends up using acm low and slow with the red guys. You get better that way. In any case... he gets it. If you don't get it... reread his posts in this thread. If you get angry or embarassed reading them... you might be a cherry picker.

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

stegor · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:37:05 AM »

the umpteenth time someone writes: you don't fly the way I want......ecc
but this time the variation is: ok I admit it is fair but you are a lamer anyway

so amusing

SkyRock · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2006, 10:55:13 AM »

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Originally posted by stegor
the umpteenth time someone writes: you don't fly the way I want......ecc
but this time the variation is: ok I admit it is fair but you are a lamer anyway

so amusing

I don't think cherrypicking someone elses fight is fair at all! I think it's lame! I see it plenty where a friendly has been fighting the enemy for a few minutes and is just about to down him when the cherrypicker friendly swoops in and towers the enemy. Very impolite, very selfish, and very very lame! It happens quite often but sometimes the CHPker will apologize and say hey you deserved that guy and I won't do that again to you. It's going to happen. It's part of the learning curve. It actually helps ones gunnery. It's the vets that do it "all" the time that are extrememly lame.

stegor · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:29:17 AM »

cherrypicking someone else's fight is so lame , I agree with you (sometimes it can happens inconsciously, still agree)
But we were arguing about cherrypicking in general, not between same country.

Anyway I'm with you in thinking that playing exclusively cherrypicking is lame, while there's nothing lame in cherrypicking per se

Likewise is lame always HOing, always praying and spraying, always gangbanging, always vulching, turning , ack hugging.... every single matter can be used in a particular condition, is the always that maybe differs the veteran from the lamer

~~Sky~~

stantond · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2006, 11:58:59 AM »

If one grinds an axe long enough, there won't be any axe remaining. The 'lamers' and other malcontents are what makes the diverse flying environment in AH. Don't want to deal with cherry pickers? Don't fly around them.

I appreciate their patience and enjoy spoiling their opportunities. Of course, depending on the situation, I will cherry pick, vulch, HO, run, alt monkey, sprial climb, and bail! After all, AH is just a game!

I remember threads when people argued that AH wasn't a game! Those were funny in an absurd way but were really just an excuse for player bashing on this BBS. Some people like that sort of thing; it's their idea of 'fun'.

Regards,

Malta

BigR · « **Reply #37 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:25:46 PM »

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Originally posted by SkyRock
I don't think cherrypicking someone elses fight is fair at all! I think it's lame! I see it plenty where a friendly has been fighting the enemy for a few minutes and is just about to down him when the cherrypicker friendly swoops in and towers the enemy. Very impolite, very selfish, and very very lame! It happens quite often but sometimes the CHPker will apologize and say hey you deserved that guy and I won't do that again to you. It's going to happen. It's part of the learning curve. It actually helps ones gunnery. It's the vets that do it "all" the time that are extrememly lame.

You just got through with telling me "no one said it wasnt fair"

And when i said you never hear great sticks complaining about it , i meant on 200. Of course people are gonna vent to their buddies. But they also have to understand it could have been avoided... Their actions led up to them being picked. Most people in furballs realize they will get picked evintually but continue to fight down there anyway because they find it fun, and they just accept it as part of the game. I get pissed too when im in a good fight and someone swoops down and kills me. I know its my own fault though and I dont whine about it. Im not saying you do either. My first post was not directed at you, it was a general comment.

Sweet2th · « **Reply #38 on:** October 04, 2006, 12:38:14 PM »

slayer has described one of the main tactix of a P-38 Pilot.

68slayr · « **Reply #39 on:** October 04, 2006, 04:59:49 PM »

Ok i'm hearing two things

1.A high flying pilot (cherry)who is killing low slow planes. He gets killed (the picker)

2 a high flying pilot who is killing low slow planes. When he kills these planes its a "cherrypick"

which one?

SkyRock · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2006, 05:57:45 PM »

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Originally posted by 68slayr
Ok i'm hearing two things

1.A high flying pilot (cherry)who is killing low slow planes. He gets killed (the picker)

2 a high flying pilot who is killing low slow planes. When he kills these planes its a "cherrypick"

which one?

A true cherry pick is when two planes are fighting each other and a third plane comes in and blasts one of the two fighting planes to smitherines! I'll give you a perfectly good example of how it happens in the MA: A spit (spit #1)pilot looks for enemy cons to engage. He spots a 38 about 6k to 7k above him. The 38 pilot does not look interested and appears to be flying off away from the spit(#1). {this is a ploy used by cherry pickers} The spit(#1) then sees a dot on the horizon. He flies to the dot and finds it's another spit(#2) and engages him. They go vert and double their immels at the top. The fight evolves into a rolling scissors and right at the top of the spit's(#1) roll-over he gets towered by the 38 which was waiting for just such a moment. Now if your the spit(#2) pilot, you should be outraged that the 38 came in a took the kill from you after you had dropped all you E and were in a stall fight. This leaves you vulnerable to any other enemies in the area. The 38 pilot has saved his E and is booming back up to 7k. If you are the spit(#1) pilot you think the 38 didn't want you when you were able to give your attention to him and maybe fight back, so you think he's lame. Now, the true lameness of the act comes in the form of someone defending it, I never defend my cherrypicking and even feel not worthy of the kill when I do cherry pick. [Cherry200: You lame cherry picker!
Me200: Yeah that was a cheap shot!
Cherry200:
Me200: ]
Yes, you heard me right, I still cherry pick occasionally. But I am man enough to call it a cheap shot which is exactly what it is to not only the enemy who gets cherried but to the friendly that was putting his arse on the line actually fighting the enemy. I have in the past invited many of AH's cherry pick artists to the DA and find that most(not all mind you) but as much as 90% of them (who actually show up) don't know their arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to fighting one on one! Some of them have been playing for years and have high fighter ranks! LMAO!

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #41 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:01:17 PM »

alot of typing for a simple thing Skyrock, and inacurate because there are many types of cherry picks. to say that cherry picking in general is a cheap tactic is laughable in a WW2 simulation/game.

cherry picked simply emplies that the 'cherry' was an easy kill. no matter if engaged in a highly skilled ACM fight or simply roped up between two wingmen, its all the same.

jhookt · « **Reply #42 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:22:46 PM »

just out of curiosity how many post on this thread were bored people at work who wish they were home playing AH2? cause it seems like you all have been repeating yourselves.

SkyRock · « **Reply #43 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:27:58 PM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
alot of typing for a simple thing Skyrock, and inacurate because there are many types of cherry picks. to say that cherry picking in general is a cheap tactic is laughable in a WW2 simulation/game.

cherry picked simply emplies that the 'cherry' was an easy kill. no matter if engaged in a highly skilled ACM fight or simply roped up between two wingmen, its all the same.

Not inaccurate when I only used one example. Cherry picking is a cheap tactic if at least to the guy who was fighting the cherry! I differ with you on your definition of a cherry pick! I believe I used an excellent example of what the term, "cherry pick" means!:aok

pluck · « **Reply #44 on:** October 04, 2006, 07:33:25 PM »

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Originally posted by 68slayr
Ok i'm hearing two things

1.A high flying pilot (cherry)who is killing low slow planes. He gets killed (the picker)

2 a high flying pilot who is killing low slow planes. When he kills these planes its a "cherrypick"

which one?

cherry is the guy getting blasted.

i say don't be a cherry. it really means different things to different people. many just blurt it out becuase they are frustrated with what just happened. when i think about dweeby people cherrypicking, i think about people staying at alt, diving in, and regain perch. they dive again when they think the person, or people, are not paying attention. mostly just looking for the easiet kills possible at all times.

the way i look at it, you won't gain respect for cherrypicking, nor should you expect any....it's not all that difficult to do.