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Offline Kermit de frog

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« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2006, 02:46:40 PM »
mega, just because a tree falls inthe woods with no one around doesn't mean it doesn't make a noise.





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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2006, 03:06:38 PM »
some people say cucumbers taste better pickled :eek: :confused: :huh

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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2006, 03:26:12 PM »
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i havent seen flag of our fathers yet and but i know it wont be better then SPR.



Well, then I'll sure it will meet your preconcieved conceptions.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2006, 03:53:47 PM »
I thought that movie was very good. Had great details (like blood and guts) and on some of the scenes you could see the bullets flying past soldiers heads. Hope those that saw it liked it, and those that haven't, I recommend you go see it.
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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2006, 03:54:47 PM »
oops didnt see the other flags of our fathers post. Everyone forget mine. HTC or admins just delete this.
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« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2006, 04:00:43 PM »
Man that movie rocked Flags of our Fathers. I thought it was very good.

Best war movies from 90s up.

1st: Saving Private Ryan (Its just none stop action, kinda)
2nd: Band of Brothers (this movie just rocks)
3rd: Patriot (Just an awsome Revolutionary War movie)
4th: Flags Of Our Fathers (was just awsome, kinda hated the going back from war, then over sea scenes)
5th: Gods and Generals (I thought it was an awsome Civil War movie, If you got base, play this movie really load, and it sounds like war)
6th: We Were Soldiers (Good Vietnam movie)

The rest just seem to hollywood like Code Talkers.
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« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2006, 07:12:26 PM »
i have reasons, i wouldnt just say it is better without seeing it unless i had reasons. SPR better director, better cast, better story.  Spielburgs ego is to big to let a movie he produced be better then a movie he directed.

vooHoo I disagree but you got the first one right :aok

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« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2006, 07:26:22 PM »
For the love of God get "The Patriot" off that list :lol
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« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2006, 07:28:40 PM »
I dunno Megadud, this one's a true story, and doesn't go overboard with the emotional stuff like SPR did...  Some scene's from that movie were pretty cheesy.

I just have to say again how pleased I was to finally sit through a movie that did the book it was based on real justice.  That is truly a rarity.
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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2006, 07:43:33 PM »
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I dunno Megadud, this one's a true story, and doesn't go overboard with the emotional stuff like SPR did...  Some scene's from that movie were pretty cheesy.

I just have to say again how pleased I was to finally sit through a movie that did the book it was based on real justice.  That is truly a rarity.


how did SPR go everboard with the emotional stuff?

Please tell me your not referring to the old man at the cemetary scenes
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« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2006, 08:22:53 PM »
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how did SPR go everboard with the emotional stuff?

Please tell me your not referring to the old man at the cemetary scenes



Well, this is thin ice here...  But, yeah, it's just I felt that the cemetary scenes, and other "why we are fighting" scenes, were done in a bit of a cheesy way.

I think they could have been done differently.  They had a bit of a hallmark special sense to them.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have been included...  I just didn't like how they came out.

Is that ok?
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« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2006, 08:24:06 PM »
Gettysburg was FAR better than Gods and Generals. And Band of Brothers isn't a movie.

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« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2006, 08:45:41 PM »
I haven't seen it yet and I can tell ya'll are all over looking the most obvious reason why Flags is undeniably better than SPR.








































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« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2006, 09:11:14 PM »
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Originally posted by Vudak
Well, this is thin ice here...  But, yeah, it's just I felt that the cemetary scenes, and other "why we are fighting" scenes, were done in a bit of a cheesy way.

I think they could have been done differently.  They had a bit of a hallmark special sense to them.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have been included...  I just didn't like how they came out.

Is that ok?


Tell ya what.
Those Cemetary scenes were done perfectly.

I've seen a scene just like that for real one day when my father in law was telling me a story about something he witnessed.
He started out ok, then all of a sudden he got that same EXACT look in his eyes the old man did And completely zoned out just like that old man did for about ten minutes.

Posted the sotry in the general forums a while back.
Just did a search and found it  here it is


 "My father in law who was a gunner on a cruiser in WWII almost laughed when he saw the ships gunnery here. His exact words were and I quote.

"Jeeessus Chrisst, If the )@*)@ g= AA guns were that _@*)$@ easy back then not a single M)($)%^*#!@ Jap plane would have gotten through and Mac would still be alive."

"Mac" From what I've been able to peice together from the bits and chunks of stories he's told me was a buddy of his with whom for whatever reason he switched places with during a Jap attack in 44.

I say "from the bits and peices" because he has never been able to tell the complete story to me all at once and be able to finish it.
During the most complete version he manages to get out he completely zoned out for about 10 minutes.

Abriviated it goes something like this

"This one day Mac and I decided we were gonna change places when the call came out that there were jap planes comming so we ran to our guns see, and we could see em comming in and this one )(#&*$# Jap was comming right at us like this (holding his hand at about a 15 degree angle) and we're trying to blast the hell out of his but this )()(#(*$# just keeps coming like this and...and...and.."

At this point this tough as nails crusty old man completely zones out. and I mean COMPLETELY zones out and he just keeps saying "and..and" while loooking out into the distance and tears rolling down his face.
I was dumbfounded for a moment. Then I realised he was reliving the entire experiance over again.
So Im like "poppop its ok, you can talk about it another time" but he just keeps looking into the distance and saying "and...and" the whole time. And I keep saying "Poppop while gently shaking him but nothing doing, he's completely locked in another place and time.

Like I said. this went on for like 10 minutes before finally he lowered his hands looked at me wiping the tears from his eyes and said "and the next day we (raising both hands in the air) "Whoosh, dumped em overboard and buried him at sea"



 "Damn nice guy too. Just found out he had a kid two days before. And if we hadnt changed places that one day. they would have buried me instead of him"


that is a true story.
Now I've never been to war let alone to WWII
So I cant say how accurate the "war" was portrayed.
But I have seen a veteran old man get that look in his eyes and stare out into space as he relived the event.
I can tell you that part is not only not "overboard with the emotional stuff" but is entirely accurate.
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« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2006, 09:19:17 PM »
Difference of opinion Dred...  Not knocking the old man's acting...  The rest of the family, music, "tell me I've lived a good life" = hallmark in my eyes.
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