Author Topic: These New Arenas (Read 1780 times)

twitchy · « **on:** November 01, 2006, 01:58:04 AM »

Well I've held my tongue long enough, these new arenas BLOW.
My squad isn't cohesive anymore at all, the numbers in any of them aren't worth throwing poop at, and aside from the general confusion it causes, the server sure hasn't seen anything like improved performance.
Why not take some of that creative energy you guys used to create these blue and orange arenas and apply it to something we might really appreciate like some new maps or some new planes? Honestly, between the task of organizing my squad in the silly multicolored arenas and trying to find an arena with decent numbers, it's starting to become a suckfest.

Why in the world would you guys bust up the main arena in the first place?
I mean other than the haughty old 'it's HT's game and he can do what he wants' ad nauseum...

If balancing the arena is the issue that caused this debacle, hell make the two weekers balance the arena. When a two weeker signs in, send them to the country with the lowest numbers, problem solved and I don't have to tool around in a friggin ENY forced f4f searching for a fight. There's people that play this game for free, two weeks after two weeks after two weeks, why not make them balance the arena numbers before telling your paying customers they have to be the ones that bear the burden of the BB hoarde whining. Jesus H.
In the six years I have payed and played this game, this is honestly the first time I've actually wondered if it's really worth the dough. Despite alot of the butt kissing and flame festing you might have read here on the BB, the general consensus amung the people that actually pay/play the game seems to agree that the New Arenas suck, real bad.

Don't get me wrong, Hitech, Skuzzy, Pyro, you guys have a great game here. I've been playing for six years now and while I've had my complaints and problems from time to time, I've enjoyed it. But this new arena stuff really is/was a bad idea guys. How about some new maps, some new planes, maybe some sheep or at least something positive, seriously. Hell if the map editor didn't CTD in the midst of a calculus nightmare everytime I've ever tried to use it, I'd make maps for you guys just to see something new.

Do we have or would it be possible to have a section of the BB that only people with an active paying account can discuss on? I think you guys could really get a much better idea of what's going on with the community if the people that actually pay monthly could communicate without all the rubbish. I hate posting on this BB because of all the flaming, but somebody needs to say it, and I know how RIDICULOUSLY immature this board can be so before you guys even start with the flaming, bite me.

Stang · « **Reply #1 on:** November 01, 2006, 02:54:43 AM »

Let me guess, you have a "squad" that has more than 32 members?

LYNX · « **Reply #2 on:** November 01, 2006, 03:23:32 AM »

You make some valid points.

Well I've held my tongue long enough, these new arenas BLOW.
it's starting to become a suckfest.

I to am becoming disgruntled especially when one arena caps out lob sided. It's having a knock on effect. I'm talking it "IS" not might or maybe I'm talking "IS".

Example
LW Orange 90 bish 70 rook 55 knight.
LW Blue 90 rook 70 knight 55 bish

You can repeat that all the way to the TA. When one side dominates an arena they are the weaker in the next arena. The weaker side in the first maxed arena being the stronger in the next. Us customers seeing the none maxed arena as low in numbers and % percentage wise even more outta whack.

When a two weaker signs in, send them to the country with the lowest numbers, There's people that play this game for free, two weeks after two weeks after two weeks

To right ..and when the start paying they can pick a side....if they wish.

In the six years I have payed and played this game, this is honestly the first time I've actually wondered

Same here. Came from that other sim November 2002 was "warlox" here then. Never looked back. Ignored all the e-mails with free month this 2 week of that. Went to their BB's once for a guys e-mail address. That's it. WELL ...guess who went and looked their WB site yesterday. oh ffs what was I thinking.... I'm thinking I'm not chuffty.

B@tfinkV · « **Reply #3 on:** November 01, 2006, 03:41:32 AM »

you know, its funny......how does a horde on one country affect anyone's gameplay? as long as there are people on each side and somebody in your sector to shoot at what is the problem. its not like the whole 90rooks, 70nit, and 40bish are all in one sector.

thing that makes me laugh even more is that even when, in the magical land of perfection that we all seem to assume is easy to achieve, we get fully balanced arenas....someone will find something else to whine about.

no offence twitchy, this is direted t everyone i just choose your post to hijack..

richard_rd · « **Reply #4 on:** November 01, 2006, 04:02:30 AM »

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Originally posted by Stang
Let me guess, you have a "squad" that has more than 32 members?

Wrong,

I am a member of Twitchy's squad, I think we have around 23 people signed into the squad, but only about half of them actively play, and the most we have on at any one time is about 7-9 players with 4-6 being more normal.

The pblm is our squad members mostly play during non prime time hours like midnight to 6AM EST, even though most of us live in the good ol USA. Like all the european squads have been complaining about there are just not enough members online at that time to have people split between 4 arena's. When there are only 60 to 120 total players logged into the arenas the game suffers if 10 players are in EW, 12 in MW, 40 in LW1, 23 in LW2.

I quess you describe our squad as tool sheders, because we prefer to play the land grab win the war type of game. But with the new setup with 4 active arenas during non prime time (low numbers of players) the game is too boring. We like to capture and defend fields, but it is no fun if people are not trying to defend fields when you are trying to capture them. Most people during late night now are Milk Running or capturing undefended fields, or the other half our furballing. No one defends fields any more, thus the land capture part of the game is way to boring anymore.

I used to play 80 to 160 hours per month and the last 2 months my online playing time has dropped down to between 20-30 hours because i am not finding the game fun anymore.

I will stick it out for a few more months to see if things change, maybe if TOD
is released in 2-4 months ( yeah i know, it will be out in 2 weeks

) that will bring the fun back, I hope so because I miss my old AH2 game.

I know this has been sugested many times already since the arena changes of the past few months, but Dale I wish you would consider making only 1 arena active during non Prime Time, I don't care wich one (EW, MW, LW, AA) maybe you can rotate the active one every couple of days or after a reset (war win). I think if we had all players playing in the same arena during non prime time, then the game may get back to normal again for us late night players and we can have our fun back!!!!

LYNX · « **Reply #5 on:** November 01, 2006, 04:14:23 AM »

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Originally posted by Stang
Let me guess, you have a "squad" that has more than 32 members?

Here we go. The "Vocal minority" chipping in with sarcasm. These guys have no constructive points to make. Heck they don't even reflect the average AH customer but they sure have alot to say about "How it should be" ...."How YOU should do x y z" and "if you did" we would all live happy ever after...... bollocks! Just typical that the first reply is from the "vocal minority" ...typical.

My squad ~SOB~ never had more than 17 players. Average 3 to 4 players on at max. Once had 11 guys on but that was 2 weeks organising it. Just ya average AH squad with average skills and average TIME played, with the exception of me. Since the changes 2 guys from my squad have left. I'm not about the squad I'm talking ACES bloody HIGH. Ain't no big deal to you lot Mr & Mrs Vocal minority but thats $358.80 per year HTC won't see. Prolly skuzzies weekly bar bill hehe:D If the average squad has 2 guys bail the game 50 x $358.80 =$17,940. Whats that "vocal minority" HTC's RV maintainance / fuel bill ? You guys sure as crap ain't paying it are ya.

Oh man ..I really could go off on one. I just hope HTC is as good as his word and there is an "expected influx of new players" but if he ain't ! If he's influenced by the "vocal minority" then HTC better be prepared to tighten his belt.

SuperDud · « **Reply #6 on:** November 01, 2006, 07:07:55 AM »

I like the changes. If you can't get as richard said and I quote, "7-9 players" organized, arena settings has nothing to do with it.

culero · « **Reply #7 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:18:28 AM »

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Originally posted by richard_rd
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Most people during late night now are Milk Running or capturing undefended fields, or the other half our furballing. No one defends fields any more, thus the land capture part of the game is way to boring anymore.

So, go where the furballers are furballing, and attack those fields. Nothing pisses off furballers more than toolshedders messing with their furballs, and nothing defends like pissed off furballers. Problem solved.

That was simple. Next?

culero

LYNX · « **Reply #8 on:** November 01, 2006, 08:29:51 AM »

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Originally posted by culero
So, go where the furballers are furballing, and attack those fields. Nothing pisses off furballers more than toolshedders messing with their furballs, and nothing defends like pissed off furballers. Problem solved.

That was simple. Next?

culero

And the planet you come from is ?

SlapShot · « **Reply #9 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:05:31 AM »

The pblm is our squad members mostly play during non prime time hours like midnight to 6AM EST, even though most of us live in the good ol USA. Like all the european squads have been complaining about there are just not enough members online at that time to have people split between 4 arena's. When there are only 60 to 120 total players logged into the arenas the game suffers if 10 players are in EW, 12 in MW, 40 in LW1, 23 in LW2.

So let me see if I understand this ...

During those hours, the problem has nothing to do with the arena caps ... It all has to do with all the other people playing in other arenas, enjoying themselves, and they are not not forced to play in an arena with you. So you want to force people to play with you so that you can enjoy yourself and screw what they enjoy.

Wow ... talk about selfish.

Did ya ever think that those who are flying in EW and MW don't want to have anything to do with LW and throughly enjoy playing and fighting with the plane sets offered in those arenas ?

I really don't need an answer to that question ... I already know the answer.

SlapShot · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:10:04 AM »

I just hope HTC is as good as his word and there is an "expected influx of new players" but if he ain't !

That would be good ... but don't expect that all of them will want to jump into the same arena as you ... they will more than likely spread themselves across all the arenas, so you still might not get the numbers that you would like.

LYNX · « **Reply #11 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:43:08 AM »

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Originally posted by SlapShot
I just hope HTC is as good as his word and there is an "expected influx of new players" but if he ain't !

That would be good ... but don't expect that all of them will want to jump into the same arena as you ... they will more than likely spread themselves across all the arenas, so you still might not get the numbers that you would like.

Very true I never asked otherwise. Right now this minutes 3.40PM my time UK about 11.40 Am East USA

Ew... 9 Players
Mw 25
LWO 29
LWB 15

I wouldn't dream of playing against more than 25% of new SUBs. Would be nice to play against more guys is all.

SlapShot · « **Reply #12 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:51:55 AM »

Would be nice to play against more guys is all.

Agreed ... but don't ever lose sight of what it is that floats their boat ... if they choose to fly in other arenas ... then ya just got to leave it at that.

Masherbrum · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:52:15 AM »

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Originally posted by B@tfinkV
you know, its funny......how does a horde on one country affect anyone's gameplay? as long as there are people on each side and somebody in your sector to shoot at what is the problem. its not like the whole 90rooks, 70nit, and 40bish are all in one sector.

thing that makes me laugh even more is that even when, in the magical land of perfection that we all seem to assume is easy to achieve, we get fully balanced arenas....someone will find something else to whine about.

no offence twitchy, this is direted t everyone i just choose your post to hijack..

Two weeks ago I noticed that at least 75% of the time, the Knight/Bish front is nonexistent. I'm sorry to burst your hijack statement but, you are wrong. All you need to do is see what fields are changing hands. Again, 75% they are Rooks taking or losing Bish/Knight bases. Bish and Knights will "grab a base or two" to keep it honest.

I'm not making this up, lying, dreaming, etc. I took two weeks off because I was sick of it. You get worn out shooting down Bish/Knights that will in turn, come in here after participating in the above. Come in here and whine about being "oppressed" and the "Evil Rook Allegience" has numerical superiority.

What some fail to understand or just choose to ignore is the following:

Rooks: 70
Bish: 50
Knights: 40

It's often 70 Rooks against at least 70 combined. This has been a trend for over 7 months now.

Zwerg · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2006, 09:52:38 AM »

Early War, Mid War, Late War: Good idea.

2xLate War: Bad idea.