Author Topic: MADD: Breathalyzers For Everyone (Read 1856 times)

john9001 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 23, 2006, 09:26:04 PM »

a online breathalizer from our British cousins.

http://www.rupissed.com

one beer per hour gave me a .04%

Chairboy · « **Reply #61 on:** November 23, 2006, 10:44:15 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Crackdown hard on people who disable their system. Make it required safety equiptment just like seatbelts. It will save lives, bottom line.

RPM, outlawing cars and requiring that people prove need to get a special "vehicle" permit (everyone else uses mass transit) will save lives too, you game for that?

Sox62 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:27:21 AM »

MADD wants em',MADD can pony up the money for them...which won't happen.

"Honey,don't forget to bring the spare keys so we can leave the car idling while we drink at the bar."

DiabloTX · « **Reply #63 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:42:49 AM »

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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The only thing more absurd than the idea is the fact that people here are not only willing to see it happen, but DESIRE it. And call themselves conservatives or libertarians.

I think if you support this idea your entire life should be child proofed.

The solution for repeat DUI offenders is manditory 5 year no parole or probation sentences for the second offense, and double it for the third offense. After the third, you do life. No parole.

Punish the offender, swiftly and severely. Do not punish society itself.

As a survivor of a wreck caused by a drunk driver last Sept., I totally agree with this. But I'd like to see it even further severe. 1 month jail for first offense, 5 years for second, life for third. I am so very damn lucky that I didn't get killed or maimed by this POS that hit me and I am still dealing with the lingering affects of her decision to drink and drive. She was on her third license suspension for driving while intoxicated. I don't know what it is about Tx judges, women seem to get away with murder around here when it comes to driving infractions.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #64 on:** November 24, 2006, 01:48:01 AM »

For those that missed the original post:

x0847Marine · « **Reply #65 on:** November 24, 2006, 09:20:28 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm
Crackdown hard on people who disable their system. Make it required safety equiptment just like seatbelts. It will save lives, bottom line.

Will it save lives?, doubt it, the people you want to stop get arrested 5 or 6 times plus for DUI and clearly dont care about fines / loss of license or stern lectures from the judge.... a device they can ignore / get around, with ease, wont change their bahavior. Key word: behavior.

And go ahead and fine them again for tampering with it, they have no intention of paying the other fines, but I'm sure they'll pay that one.

As long as they are free and nobody is keeping an eye on them, they'll drive blitzed.. period.

Put a gadget in their car, they'll take the wifes or kids.. or buy a $500 crapbox and register it under the dogs name (true story). Or they'll get a fellow drunk to drive, then take turns to share the risk (also true). Its what they do, its how they live.. its a friggn lifestyle; 7 days a week they're a "regular" at the bar, then drive home swiggn a beer. For every 1 arrest, they probably drove home by braille 20x before that.

I worked a DUI task force as a cop, have been to numerous DUI seminars / training classes.. and all that, I know these people all too well, they are like roaches.. you can spray them with fines... it rolls off their back, take away their legs (car).. they grow new ones. Stomp on em real good and they still run away.

Many Depts effectively curb habitual DUI'ers by staking them out and busting em the second the sit down behind the wheel.. friends and relatives grow tired of recovering cars from impound, and from then on they're paranoid as hell the po-po is eyeballing them... rather than waste $$ on gadgets, studies on gadgets, gadget building, gadget development, and wasted time & $$ in gadget court cases... pressure your local political clowns into spending that $$ on dedicated DUI task forces that have proven effective.

But I can see it now, the drunk will get his base-head, pill popping, heroin addict friends to drive... sure they're just as F'ed up and DUI as he is, but at least they have fresh breath.

lazs2 · « **Reply #66 on:** November 24, 2006, 09:52:50 AM »

am not surprised that rpm wants even more of a nanny state... Are there more like him in Texas?

lazs

Leslie · « **Reply #67 on:** November 24, 2006, 10:08:48 AM »

Might not stop drunk driving, but confiscate the car first offense and it would slow down. A lot.

Les

Maverick · « **Reply #68 on:** November 24, 2006, 11:57:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Leslie
Might not stop drunk driving, but confiscate the car first offense and it would slow down. A lot.

Les

Sales of the vehicles at auction might help pay for part of the program. Problem is a siezure of an item with a lien tends to go right back to the lien holder.

It could only happen on a conviction however and not an arrest. The majority of first offenders (arrestees actually) is that they get a plea bargain to a far lower offense and then no DUI conviction.

lukster · « **Reply #69 on:** November 24, 2006, 12:10:30 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
am not surprised that rpm wants even more of a nanny state... Are there more like him in Texas?

lazs

I'm certain there are plenty in Texas that want a nanny state. However, the requirement of driver's licenses and insurance aren't even enforced unless you are legally in this country and can afford to pay the fine. The double standard is an increasingly infuriating joke.

Angus · « **Reply #70 on:** November 25, 2006, 04:48:47 AM »

How many % of car accidents happen with a drunken driver at the controls?
I've heard some 10-15%.

That means that 85-90% of those causing accidents are SOBER!

Why are those let out to the roads!!!!!!!

(Source, - the Dave Allen show

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DiabloTX · « **Reply #71 on:** November 25, 2006, 04:54:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
How many % of car accidents happen with a drunken driver at the controls?
I've heard some 10-15%.

That means that 85-90% of those causing accidents are SOBER WOMEN!

Why are those let out to the roads!!!!!!!

(Source, - the Dave Allen show )

Fixed!!

lazs2 · « **Reply #72 on:** November 25, 2006, 08:54:46 AM »

I believe that it is more like 40% of the injury accidents involve some alcohol.

diablo.. who is this woodperson? not judging but... aren't you a little obsessed? Just email em for a date allready.

lazs

Captain Virgil Hilts · « **Reply #73 on:** November 25, 2006, 09:52:10 AM »

You know, this is a REALLY stupid idea.

Do you plan to retrofit EVERY car in the entire U.S.?

Do you think I'm going to let you put this POS crap in my original classic muscle car?

Do you really think habitual drunks drive NEW cars?

Habitual drunks are broke, drive older cars that often don't even have valid plates or registration, and don't have a license about half the time.

A habitual DUI offender goes somewhere and buys a cheap, used car, often from a private party. They don't go down to the new car dealership and buy new cars.

This whole idea is just as stupid and arrogant as gun control laws.

You start giving 1st offenders an 11 month and 29 day hard labor chain gang sentence, 2nd offenders a 10 year sentence, and 3rd offenders a life sentence, and this crap will stop. And while you're at it, make ALL prison time hard labor time instead of goof off time.

Sandman · « **Reply #74 on:** November 25, 2006, 06:52:19 PM »

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Originally posted by wooley
What's your point? I only ask because it seems you might be saying leave drink-drivers alone if we aren't also going to go after tired drivers. Of course that would be ridiculous wouldn't it...two wrongs not making a right and all that.

1. Personal responsibility doesn't end at the bottle.
2. Fatigue has the same effect on driving that alcohol does.