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Offline Reynolds

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« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2006, 09:57:40 PM »
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Plus try to find some numbers to support your claim, otherwise it's just peeing into the wind.


Have you ever been HOed by or seen someone be HOed by a 109 K4?

Have you ever been vulched by or seen someone vluched by a 109K4?

Have you ever been HOed by or seen someone HOed by a Hurricane?

Have you ever been vulched by or seen someone vulched by a Hurricane?

How many times has your aircraft been outperformed by a 109K4?

How many times has your aircraft been outperformed by a Hurricane?

Answer those, and see if your experience agrees.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2006, 12:05:18 AM »
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Have you ever been HOed by or seen someone be HOed by a 109 K4?

Have you ever been vulched by or seen someone vluched by a 109K4?

Have you ever been HOed by or seen someone HOed by a Hurricane?

Have you ever been vulched by or seen someone vulched by a Hurricane?

How many times has your aircraft been outperformed by a 109K4?

How many times has your aircraft been outperformed by a Hurricane?

Answer those, and see if your experience agrees.


Yep, though he missed.

Nope, I dont up a capped field.

Yep, though he missed.

Nope, I dont up a capped field.

Nope, see above.

Always.

Sometimes.


Seriosly though, based on the numbers the Hurri should easily have a equal or lower ENY than the 109K4.  How can you truely base what you think the ENY should be just based on one persons in game observations?

So it still comes back to the numbers....have any?

Research them, maybe you will find something interesting to support your claim.  Try compairing Hurri deaths vs kills using the other low eny aircraft.  Something might come up that will support you.
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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2006, 01:58:21 PM »
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How can you truely base what you think the ENY should be just based on one persons in game observations?


It shouldnt be based on one person's observations, it should be based on the plane's capabilities. Such as aircraft speed, turn rate, and weapons. Different people will fly the aircraft diffferent ways, such as not HOing and not vulching and that will result in radically different kill numbers, and as such its sensible to score a plane not on the way its flown and the direct results of that, but the capabilities of the aircraft itself. That however is just my oppinion.
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2006, 05:18:51 AM »
Pretty much agree there.
But yet...it's complicated to value different aspects of performance to absoluteness so there will always be some debate over the ENY. I guess that's why the HTC crew edit this the way they do - but again, it's a free thing for us forum folks to point things out.
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« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2006, 11:39:48 AM »
Yup, but if you by a kill rating, I can just some tard vulch-ramming a mission of La7s on the runway. That could easily be a 6:1 kill ration for that sortie! lol
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« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2006, 07:27:06 AM »
due to the new ack model, deacking is more hard, and so as well is thereby...vulching.
But I saw the point.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2006, 04:33:01 PM »
The C.205 is a great alternitave for those of us who refuse to fly the dwe...., um, spitfires.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2006, 06:37:02 PM »
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The C.205 is a great alternitave for those of us who refuse to fly the dwe...., um, spitfires.


Its more a 109 than a spit, the engine is a proof of that.

Good spit alternative would be the Ki's
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2006, 11:53:32 PM »
A spit eats a C2, given equal pilots. Especially a spit16 (by far the most common spit in the late arenas). Depending on merge, E-states, and so forth, it can best the spit9 on relatively even footing, but the 9 is one of the slowest spits, with the very weak 1942 engine (and the C202/205 is a 1941/1943 plane, if I recall), but the Spit8 has a WAY more powerful engine, WAY better turning and stall-speed handling, and the 16 even more so.

There's no reason the C205 should have an ENY of 5. Unless you're counting raw ammo load. In which case the N1K2 and F4U-1C should have an ENY of 1, the 110G-2 should have an ENY of 0.25. So the ENY is a little off-kilter to my eyes.
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« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2006, 02:50:13 AM »
Spit IX is optimized for high altitude. Now where's that performance comparison link again. Anyway Second turbo knocks in at 20K.
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« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2006, 03:23:22 AM »
Ahh, found it.
Spit IX is slower at low alt, faster at high alt.
Spit IX climbs better through the frame more or less, the gap increasing with increased alt.
Spitfire IX outturns the 205 with a good margin.
205 has quicker acceleration, markedly at higher speeds.
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It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)
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