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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2001, 06:41:00 PM »
Bowser,

Of course he can't film it now.  They don't do that when the camera is on, they're shy.  ;)

So, we're just going to have to take his word for it, no matter how many times we've tried to do those things in the N1K2-J and haven't been able to come close.  ;)
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« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2001, 06:47:00 PM »
Too true, Karnak.

The N1K2-J is indeed a very shy creature when it knows it is being watched. It takes great skill to catch one unawares and film it while it is letting its inner self out on a rampage.

Perhaps someday some Nobel prize winning naturalist will catch a few frames for all ofus to enjoy.
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« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2001, 07:19:00 PM »
I don't attribute any magical abilities to the N1K2, but the fact remains that it IS an easy plane to get kills in.  Can it turn a really hard 360 and make up ground on you as you pass?  No, I've never seen that.  Can it outturn every plane except the Spit and Zeke?  Yes, in my experience it can.  Can it accelerate with a 190D9 and a 109G10?  Yes, in my experience it can.  Can it dive with a 190D9?  Yes, for the first 5 seconds or so, after that the 190 pulls away.  Can it climb with a 109G10?  It can't quite keep up in a sustained climb, but in my experience the zoom climb is every bit as good.  

Can a 190d9 or a 109g10 kill a N1K2?  Absolutely.  I'm 20 and 3 against them this tour.  Do you have to be very, very careful about how you engage them?  Yes, you do.  

The N1K2 is one of the two most dangerous planes in the game, in my opinion.  If you screw up around one, you will be shot down.  

People used to argue over who was better when I played the game Team Fortress (for Quake 1).  LPBs (those with high speed connections) said that their fast connection was no advantage at all, and that only their "skill" at the game had any impact on how well they did.  Most HPB's disagreed with them, and thought that the connection did play a role in how well you performed in the game.  I thought that it was a little of both- the players skill was the main determinant, but the connection speed was a big help.  I still think that way, after having my cablemodem for a number of years now.  

I believe that it is the same sort of thing in Aces High.  You have people that say "oh, it is the pilot, not the plane", and you have those that disagree.  I tend to believe that the pilot is the chief factor in the outcome of any fight, but you'd have to be a fool to say the plane had no input at all.

As a for instance,lets take pilot A and pilot B, both are of equal skill.  One is flying a 109F4 and one is flying a N1K2.  The planes are at the same altitude, heading towards eachother, distance is perhaps 6 kilometers.  Out of 10 fights, who will win the majority?  I personally would say the N1K2, you may disagree.  

I realize that conditions in the MA are quite different than the scenario that I've just described, however, I do not feel that it renders my point any less valid.  In the MA, if I meet a N1K2, a large factor in the decision whether or not to engage is the type of plane I am in.  If I am in a Dora or a P51d, or an La7- sure, I'll take that N1K2 on, and I'll most likely win the fight.

If I'm flying a 190A8 or a 109G2, I know realistically that I am most likely going to end up on the losing end, unless the other pilot is baked.  That could be the reason that numbers are so low for the German planes (other than the G10 and D9), the U.S. planes (other than the P51 and F4U), the other Japanese planes, the other Russian planes, and the Italian planes.  People have flown those planes and found that they do not stack up well against the current "favorites" in the arena, so they sit unused.  Another possible reason is that numbers aren't yet high enough that we show a lot of usage on all the planes we have.

But I honestly don't believe that most people that DON'T fly a N1K2, spit, or LA7 are "whiners in disguise"- I think most of them are either looking for a challenge or wanting to be different.

Again, most of this is pure personal opinion, so feel free to disagree with me.

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« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2001, 11:18:00 PM »
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But I honestly don't believe that most people that DON'T fly a N1K2, spit, or LA7 are "whiners in disguise"- I think most of them are either looking for a challenge or wanting to be different.

I actually agree with you on that one.  Only the ones that feel the need to point out on channel 1 when they are shot down by one (ignoring the fact none of us even know they were shot down) to "set the record straight" are what would fall into the original category I set forth.

Each night there's several hundred people playing.  Only a handfull babble on channel one endlessly and pointlessly providing excuses.

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« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2001, 11:28:00 PM »
Tac, your just going to go from "burn Nikidweeb burn!" every time you get a kill on one to "Lol, aint a ufo no more!" if they change anything. We can hardly wait.

How you can obsess on 1 topic, for months and months, channel 1 post afer channel one post daily, over and over on one stupid topic is beyond me. Your the only person I squelch everytime I log on, only because you say the same niki cries endlessly.

Either it's some weird fetish/obsession, or your just plain stupid.

What I don't get is your pry great at this game, so you should just adapt accordingly. They don't bother me none.

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« Reply #35 on: August 28, 2001, 11:30:00 PM »
Just HO niki's. Simple. Easy. Quick.

The niki IS a UFO. The niki IS a crutch. And because of this 9/10 Niki pilots are not 'skilled'. There are a handful that really do know what to do.

So 9/10 HOs with the Niki are against a guy with crap aim, who tends to have second thoughts about the HO with 4 hispanos blazing at him.

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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2001, 01:29:00 AM »
Just HO typhoons's. Simple. Easy. Quick.
The typhoon IS a UFO. The typhoon IS a crutch. And because of this 9/10 typhoon pilots are not 'skilled'. There are a handful that really do know what to do.

So 9/10 HOs with the typhoon are against a guy with crap aim, who tends to have second thoughts about the HO with 2 HO 5 blazing at him.

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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2001, 02:53:00 AM »
LOL to both of you- I'm not HO'ing anything with 4 cannons  :).

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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2001, 06:00:00 AM »
Hey Fatty, try squeezing your bellybutton into the cockpit of a typhoon, fly at standard operational alts for this plane and see how successful you are against N1K2-J's and La7's and I'll be watching lol@U dweebster

N1K2-J pilots = girlie dweebster cowards

remember its a game, gettin killed don't really hurt lessen you got real low self esteem.

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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2001, 06:28:00 AM »
I hate you all.  :)


xBAT

P.S. The smiley face is simply anthor indication of my impending implosion.
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2001, 06:29:00 AM »
Feeling the need to belittle others is frequently a sign of low self esteem.  It is often used to try to build ones self up by creating a false sense of superiority in something that both parties are participating in. This kind of juvenile behavior is best observed among children on a play ground where the least socially developed of them use childish name calling to try to make up for their lack of skill.
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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2001, 06:37:00 AM »
I fly what I fly because I like to be different and it fits my style. I do thank some planes provide  more "challange" to get kills in. A more indepth knowlege of ACM is often required to be successful in some planes.

 The Niki will still be like the Spit in the MA even after the changes. It will be a furballing mofo death-dealer. It will still be heavily used but it'll take abit more "skill" perhaps. I think true skill in a Niki isnt just getting kills...its landing them after the fact.

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Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2001, 06:39:00 AM »
Errr Karnak... cool post but lack of "skill" in what... monkey bars? Hehe  :)

xBAT
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2001, 12:36:00 PM »
And mimicking even more so Karnak.

I'm kinda sick of people defending the indefensible for the sake of a) getting attention in the form of my type of response, b) just being amazinhunks, c)defending their choice of ac in the MA.

I know the N1K is BS, you know it, just admit it, fly it, who cares, just a game anyhow.

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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2001, 01:04:00 PM »
I was killed last night by HISPD and he was NOT in an N1K.  Believe it or not I think it was an F4U  :eek:.  

Bastige!  How dare you kill me in something besides the N1K, you un-skilled son of a motherless hispano!  ;)

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