The Flawed Updated AH

[wrongwayric]

Part of the flaw to the new update as i see it is the "eny "restriction in the early areanas. When you supposedly have "historicallly" correct, some debate there, aircraft flying against each other. You limit what planes we can up, then you put another limit and restriction on us because of the number of players? wtf is that? There have been times when 1 knit on, 3 bish, and 9 rook. Now suddenly rook can only up 1, maybe 2 planes?
Hordes have been a problem in the past, but what is a horde? Is a horde a squad who has a mission and plan? I think not! Is a horde a select group of players that log on all at once just to see who can get the most vultches after he and his buddies log on and cap a base with no intention of capture? Yea!!!
If i was going to put a stop to horde's, vultching, i would put a time limit on how long you have to capture a field after initial attack. After limit, full field up's, you have to start all over.

[RTGorkle]

I don't like ENY at low roster totals either - which the way it is during my timezone's peak. Roster numbers and ENY limit fluctuate madly. There's not enough people on the map for one country to really dominate another - just a smattering of furballs and half-arsed base-taking.

[croduh]

Is it vulching or vulthching?

[RTGorkle]

Originally posted by duh
Is it vulching or vulthching?

I'm not sure that there should be a 'ch' in it at all, if it's derived from 'vulture'. Conumdrum!

[B@tfinkV]

Originally posted by wrongwayric
There have been times when 1 knit on, 3 bish, and 9 rook. Now suddenly rook can only up 1, maybe 2 planes?
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if you were one of the 9 rooks, then its totaly your fault. ENY is not meant to limit what people can fly, its supposed to force you to balance numbers. If you fail to balance the numbers and insist on flying with the 9, you pay the price in ENY restriction.


its really very simple.

[RTGorkle]

So if he changed to Nits to avoid the penalty, and another 15 nits logged on 15 minutes later, is it still that simple?

[Ghosth]

RTGorkle, yes basically it is, because it would then be up to the 15 knights who logged on to help balance sides again.

Side balance is everyones problem, until everyone learns to do it its going to be a pain in the posterior.  Its really not that hard, people who flew regularly in the AvA arena do it all the time. And unlike the AvA, here it doesn't even make you change your ride.

[Oldman731]

Originally posted by Ghosth
RTGorkle, yes basically it is, because it would then be up to the 15 knights who logged on to help balance sides again.

Side balance is everyones problem, until everyone learns to do it its going to be a pain in the posterior.  Its really not that hard, people who flew regularly in the AvA arena do it all the time. And unlike the AvA, here it doesn't even make you change your ride.

The difference, though, is that in AvA there is no time limit on side switching.  In the MAs you get one switch, basically.  At low number times this means that people entering the arena really have to be careful where they go, I would think.

- oldman

[RTGorkle]

Originally posted by Ghosth
Side balance is everyones problem, until everyone learns to do it its going to be a pain in the posterior.  Its really not that hard, people who flew regularly in the AvA arena do it all the time. And unlike the AvA, here it doesn't even make you change your ride.

Fair enuff. I'm well and truly one of those that's not proactive at side-balancing.... yet. I prefer to fly with my squad and they'd be a diffucult bunch to pick up and move to a different country. If we did manage it we'd sometimes be moving a whole quarter of the Rook roster. Might have to move myself and shoot some of my squaddies down. Always value in that.

Also, anyone know how I can get rid of the stinking "RT" on the front of my Forum handle?

[B@tfinkV]

Originally posted by Oldman731
The difference, though, is that in AvA there is no time limit on side switching.  In the MAs you get one switch, basically.  At low number times this means that people entering the arena really have to be careful where they go, I would think.

- oldman

fair point oldman,  unfortunately the time limit was put in place mainly because of the petty minded childlike players who would switch sides to find a CV, to bust up an NOE mission, to gain perk points from thw inning team.





ALL the restrictions about ENY and moving sides were FORCED upon HTC by the immaturity of the players.


AvA is a whole different arena, and generaly full of mature fair minded players who dont care about a 'war' or if they are winning it.



Gorkle ya gotta make a new BB account or plead with skuzzy.

[SlapShot]

In the MAs you get one switch, basically.

That's 1 switch per hour ... for me, 1 hour in an arena is a blink of the eye.

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by B@tfinkV
if you were one of the 9 rooks, then its totaly your fault. ENY is not meant to limit what people can fly, its supposed to force you to balance numbers. If you fail to balance the numbers and insist on flying with the 9, you pay the price in ENY restriction.


its really very simple.

The problem with this is the early and midwar arenas are struggling with numbers already.  They should do everything they can to encourage folks to go there and with critical mass the balance will sort itself out.  You can't reasonably expect folks to switch sides hour by hour to balance out the arena.  Those inclined in such direction will do so either way while other will just quit and go to one of the late war arenas with the numbers.

You don't need eny restrictions with low numbers when you have perk point bonus to encourage the same thing.  A carrot is much more effective than a stick when you don't have authority.

[B@tfinkV]

fair point, i just think WE ALL brought these restrictions on ourself, HiTech doesnt get some perverse pleasure out of limiting our fun, he is forced to take action because some players are limiting other players fun if nothing is done.

[Shuffler]

were all rooks on the same Squad? Obviously they had no problem with the eny as no one changed sides to even up teams. Why worry about their eny.

[SkyRock]

I think the arena should place a person on the low team as they log in and therefore automatically balance the sides.  If a person then wanted to jump, they would bare the burden of eny.  It would be only their fault, as the arena automatically tries to prevent eny from being enacted!  Oh, and since Im talking about stuff, hurri2c's should be perked in EW, and only one bomber per pilot (no more formations of three piloted by one person).