Arena Balance

[Excaliber]

Originally posted by hitech
Currently having 2 different thoughts.

1 Go back to my original idea of having a wait time between flights based on country balance. This would put the same numbers in the air at one time.

2. Write the cant fly in this arena unless you changes sides.

3. Say screw it, turn off ENY and let everyone complain.

I would like door #3........ cause I'd much rather you say screw it than me. I'd like to stay....but not like this.

[moto61]

Originally posted by hubsonfire


At the point I started to see more of this, I came to have a greater respect for and interest in the community, and it's overall well being. The game is made up of many different types of people, and there are good people on all sides. I'm glad I wasn't so myopic and foolish as some you are, as I would never have become acquainted with many of the folks in this community whom I regard highly, and who have made the community, to me, as valuable an asset and as entertaining as the game itself.

Jeeze sounds like you might be the ghost writer for Jimmy Carter.

Pat yourself on the back and write a book about it.

Moto61

[E25280]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
Okay, on its merits only. How is having a near constant state of numerical imbalance better, for all involved, than having roughly balanced country populations within an arena, or, how is the situation worse without this imbalance?

You persist in your false assumptions and continue to put words in others' mouths.  Please point out where I have ever stated a "constant numerical imbalance is better for all involved" or that "balanced arenas are bad."

[VgasX]

How about this Hitech, What if when we enter the ready room and it will show the balance of each county in the arena's so we can choose one to balance numbers? Just my 2 cents.

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by E25280
You persist in your false assumptions and continue to put words in others' mouths.  Please point out where I have ever stated a "constant numerical imbalance is better for all involved" or that "balanced arenas are bad."

You said yourself that the cure is worse than the disease, so you are not in favor of balancing measures. You prefer the current setup. That means continued imbalance. The 2 are the same.

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
You said yourself that the cure is worse than the disease, so you are not in favor of balancing measures. You prefer the current setup. That means continued imbalance. The 2 are the same.

Hub, I'm becoming more and more convinced, despite HTC's efforts, that the times have passed us by and AH has evolved into a game that is run by the horde, with the purpose of 'winning the war', racing to the reset, and that those of us looking for more then that, are in the minority and clearly out of touch with what matters to the masses.

I'll confess to being discouraged at this point.  I'd like to write it off to playing too much, but I haven't been.  I find myself logging on and then logging off after a couple flights.

It's on me to find the fun, and with the way things are operating in the game right now, I'm hard pressed to find the fun I enjoy in it.  

I don't know the answer and based on what appears to be the majority of players, what I enjoy and what they enjoy is different.  

Hopefully I'm just tired and cranky and I'll see it differently tomorrow, but it's felt that way all week.

[LYNX]

Originally posted by hubsonfire


to Laurie, lynx, and the other misguided loyalists. Yes, I remember there being a severe imbalance in the days of AH1 as well. That imbalance drove me to leave a squad of people I really enjoyed flying and chatting with, because our squad was loyal to our chesspiece, and that was that. I, on the other hand, didn't find fielding 150 guys versus 30 (purely in the name of loyalty) to be much fun, and killed my account, started a shades, and gave up on country loyalty altogether, choosing instead to fly for the underdogs, and play around with the new beta setup. After some time passed, a certain other squad stepped up and started flying for the underdogs, and eventually a few more people and squads followed their lead, with my former squad eventually starting to rotate countries each tour as well.

At the point I started to see more of this, I came to have a greater respect for and interest in the community, and it's overall well being. The game is made up of many different types of people, and there are good people on all sides. I'm glad I wasn't so myopic and foolish as some you are, as I would never have become acquainted with many of the folks in this community whom I regard highly, and who have made the community, to me, as valuable an asset and as entertaining as the game itself.

"Misguided loyalists...I'm glad I wasn't so myopic and foolish as some you are.... and eventually a few more people and squads followed their lead,

Dunno where you get off with writing this stuff.... I recommend taking share options in "brasso".  Not only will your trumpet be shinney you'll earn a dividend with all the wrist action:lol

[MOIL]

Originally posted by LYNX
"Misguided loyalists...I'm glad I wasn't so myopic and foolish as some you are.... and eventually a few more people and squads followed their lead,

Dunno where you get off with writing this stuff.... I recommend taking share options in "brasso".  Not only will your trumpet be shinney you'll earn a dividend with all the wrist action:lol

This is good stuff,  

[KryptoniteXP]

Well... I've had an idea for some time now and I think I will voice it.

While I am a self-taught programmer, I know nothing of the games programming and even if this is possible, but here it is...

Have a self governed "Auto Balancer".  If the sides get too lopsided the system would send a message to the offending country "System:  Autobalancer will balance in 4 minutes".  This would give a minute countdown as long as the offending country continues to be lopsided.  Say a few people on the offending side decided to balance on their own then "System: Autobalancer balance cancelled".  But if no one switched countries or arena's then the balancer after the countdown would select the player(s) at random and move them to the other country, sending them the message "You have been moved to country _____ ".  The switching country time limiter would then be in affect (1hr).

By keeping it at random who get's moved, it would be fair.  Everyone would have to "do their time" on the other side.  I think it would be good for most players to meet the people on the countries too.  But only being moved for an hour would not be bad either... Heck an hour flies by in this game

[MOIL]

While an interesting idea to say the least, I feel this would go over like a lead balloon. Just my opinion tho........

[E25280]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
You said yourself that the cure is worse than the disease, so you are not in favor of balancing measures. You prefer the current setup. That means continued imbalance. The 2 are the same.

Again, when did I ever say I was against balancing measures?  Again, you are putting words in my mouth.

I said I was against being forced to switch sides.

Measures that encourage side balance (current ENY system for example) I do not object to.

I do object to any measure that forces me onto a different side whether I want to or not.

That is no where near the same.

[Laurie]

Originally posted by LYNX
"Misguided loyalists...I'm glad I wasn't so myopic and foolish as some you are.... and eventually a few more people and squads followed their lead,

Dunno where you get off with writing this stuff.... I recommend taking share options in "brasso".  Not only will your trumpet be shinney you'll earn a dividend with all the wrist action:lol

[Laurie]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
You said yourself that the cure is worse than the disease, so you are not in favor of balancing measures. You prefer the current setup. That means continued imbalance. The 2 are the same.

So what if he likes the new system.
accept it, he disagrees with your 'wise' thoughts.

AND

People dont always want a long lecture on why you're 'right' and someone else is 'wrong'.

[a4944]

How about the ability to enable or disable scoring and stats tracking and the ability to reset it if you so desire?  This way you can go to the weaker side, turn off your scoring and stats, and up from besieged fields without worry.  

You can also play for fun without burning-out so fast.  You can enable stats tracking when you want to be serious, try to survive, and play for the stats that others can judge you by (squads, etc).  You also have the ability to disable them to learn a new plane, when doing poorly and getting frustrated, or when upping from a cap field on the side with low numbers.  People who like stats can keep them on all the time, people who don't can disable it all the time, I think most will be somewhere in the middle with them on and off.  Give the choice to the individual.  

The assumption here is that some people are flying for the hoard for their own stats and a few (not all) will switch around more if stats were not an issue which may help the numbers balance a bit.  
   
Thanks,
Venom

[Bronk]

Want a real simple solution for imbalances?

The higher the imbalances get the less troops and ords as AC/GV can carry.

When it gets to the point it's 2:1.   You can only hold 1 100lb/ 1 troop per ac .... maybe the that would induce a little side balancing .

Just a thought.




Bronk