Author Topic: Repair Hangar (Read 5303 times)

Krusty · « **Reply #45 on:** December 21, 2006, 05:43:39 PM »

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Originally posted by Masherbrum
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Spreading it a bit thick, aren't you?

Masherbrum · « **Reply #46 on:** December 21, 2006, 08:49:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
Spreading it a bit thick, aren't you?

Not at all. I see both sides of the "wish". But, that was one of the few times I've enjoyed flying a "bullet-riddled, beat up POS". Usually, yeah, I'll land and roll a new one. I've ALWAYS played for the challenge Krusty. I'm sorry, but

at a spawn, vulching and landing 14 kills, dropping an entire flotilla of ships with 1k buffs isn't my cup of tea. If other's like it, great, more power to em. But for ME, I enjoy a challenge.

If YOU knew me, you'd know two things. I have a photographic memory (my wife hates it) and I do not "exaggerate/lie". Sorry Krusty, but you seem to be trying to redeem yourself from "Ploesti Debacle".

Krusty · « **Reply #47 on:** December 21, 2006, 09:52:59 PM »

I have nothing to redeem.

Are you saying you honestly mean that you flew an La7 with no ailerons, no rudder, no elevators, using NO controls whatsoever other than throttle and flaps, you landed?

I read that as sarcasm (it can only be), to which I replied "laying it on a bit thick?".

I've lost every flight control in a plane before. Dive a Ki84 and you'll experience it. It is impossible to fly using only torque and flaps, not to mention line up and turn onto a runway, land safely, and exit out. I suppose it could be done if you were already lined up, low and slow, but I don't think most folks are going to believe ya on that one

EDIT: Mind you, I didn't read it as pointless sarcasm. I figured you had a point about "repair hangars" In there somewhere.

Reynolds · « **Reply #48 on:** December 21, 2006, 10:21:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I have nothing to redeem.

Are you saying you honestly mean that you flew an La7 with no ailerons, no rudder, no elevators, using NO controls whatsoever other than throttle and flaps, you landed?

I read that as sarcasm (it can only be), to which I replied "laying it on a bit thick?".

I've lost every flight control in a plane before. Dive a Ki84 and you'll experience it. It is impossible to fly using only torque and flaps, not to mention line up and turn onto a runway, land safely, and exit out. I suppose it could be done if you were already lined up, low and slow, but I don't think most folks are going to believe ya on that one

EDIT: Mind you, I didn't read it as pointless sarcasm. I figured you had a point about "repair hangars" In there somewhere.

That honestly does depend. Torque CAN be sued to roll the plane, to turn, and throttle and flaps CAN control pitch. AND if your torque turns you left, but you are missing your right flap, you can use the two to land. It would be hard as HELL, and you would need to be almost perfectly lined up to do it, but it COULD be done, with someone with a lot of experience and a ****load of patience. It sounds like something I would try but utterly fail at

Masherbrum · « **Reply #49 on:** December 22, 2006, 01:50:04 AM »

I was about 3 miles S of our field, lined up with the runway, I glided and belly landed.

If ONLY I was "higher elite status" in AH, then I'd be believed.

Back then I ONLY flew LA7's. I out turned everything but Hurry1's. Maybe one day....who knows.

Until then, I'll now refrain from posting "previous dealings in AH". Krusty, go read a book on Ploesti.

B3YT · « **Reply #50 on:** December 22, 2006, 01:50:57 PM »

is it me or does krust belive that EVERY ONE LIES ?.....except himself.
Krusty if you have nothing to say that is uplifting or of intrest then bog off.

Spikes · « **Reply #51 on:** December 31, 2006, 07:52:37 AM »

Have you done research in videos and books? I bet you couldnt repair a flap in 30 secs. Just crash and get kills again, because then people would be in the air with the same plane for hours on end.

Just my opinion

B3YT · « **Reply #52 on:** December 31, 2006, 08:38:00 AM »

could you refuel and rearm in 30secs. ? no .yet you can in AH. is there any point to that argument ? no. I'd lke to fly the same plane for hours. i find that even "identical" planes seem diffrent when i fly them after i crashed and got a "new" one.

Spikes · « **Reply #53 on:** December 31, 2006, 12:14:20 PM »

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Originally posted by hitech
BTW my reasons for not implementing the repair have absolutely nothing to do with realism, it is all about game play.

Trying to put up a big kill sortie by rearming requires you not to take damage.

I would be willing to implement repair, if it also terminated your sortie,and hence worked just as if you had towered out and back.

HiTech

I like that very much

Apeking · « **Reply #54 on:** December 31, 2006, 12:32:56 PM »

"I ran over a wing with a golf cart. Bent the aileron and cracked the tip. 2 minutes, a hammer and a roll of duck-tape and it was flying, THAT is a patch. It was made flight worthy for a short duration, long enough to get several flights in and "get a job done". ... GRANTED, there might be serious damage in the wing that could easily kill the plane next flight, BUT that aileron works for a while. long enough to get a sortie in."

Are you talking about real-life aeroplanes, model aeroplanes, or an imaginary aeroplane world in your head?

B3YT · « **Reply #55 on:** January 01, 2007, 03:41:18 AM »

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Originally posted by hitech
BTW my reasons for not implementing the repair have absolutely nothing to do with realism, it is all about game play.

Trying to put up a big kill sortie by rearming requires you not to take damage.

I would be willing to implement repair, if it also terminated your sortie,and hence worked just as if you had towered out and back.

HiTech

if it's not about kills why the re-arm pad?
whats the point of a re-arm pad if you can get a new plane with loadout from the tower?

i say if no repair hanger , no re-arm pad.

Reynolds · « **Reply #56 on:** January 01, 2007, 04:21:32 AM »

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Originally posted by Apeking
"I ran over a wing with a golf cart. Bent the aileron and cracked the tip. 2 minutes, a hammer and a roll of duck-tape and it was flying, THAT is a patch. It was made flight worthy for a short duration, long enough to get several flights in and "get a job done". ... GRANTED, there might be serious damage in the wing that could easily kill the plane next flight, BUT that aileron works for a while. long enough to get a sortie in."

Are you talking about real-life aeroplanes, model aeroplanes, or an imaginary aeroplane world in your head?

Real life planes. I ran over a Lark, and flew it myself minutes later. Granted, on landing I did everything I could to touch on the left wing and not the right, but the aileron worked, the tip didnt fall off, and it flew. There is a VERY big difference, again, between a patch and a repair.

Nemeth · « **Reply #57 on:** January 05, 2007, 11:57:48 PM »

Why does everyone (especially Krusty) have to bash this idea down?
Ive been flying for about 16 months now, i still have trouble landing planes (cept 4 c47's they land them selves) without hitting the prop... i can see alot of people doing this too, not too sure about in MA thou, but i dont think that many people would have the patience to land, taxi to a pad/hangar. For 1 i sure dont, althou it would be nice to rack up a nice # of kills.

But people (krusty) dont look at it this way... hey they landed a torn up POS and they are gonna fly again now its gonna be easier to kill em. OOO! more people landing to fix up their hole riddled POS's more easy kills!

This would give advantages to"newer" pilots (in the fact it would be easier to shoot up the fixed plane) and a disadvantage to anyone who choose to fix up their plane. so there really wont be a difference in the quality of game play...

and about GV's, it kinda doesnt matter... Veh sups pretty much gives you a new veh/tankand if ur camping and being shot at, it would take... say 30 secs to repair at the pad/hangar, only takes secs to kill...

EagleDNY · « **Reply #58 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:45:54 AM »

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Originally posted by B3YT
The WWII RAF crew were always ready for repairs to fighter aircraft. he was part of a 12 man crew. With the lack of aircraft available you had to get your plane back up. remember that the hurri was wood , damage could be repaired with bamboo cain ect. after comabt was over for the day they would work for upto six hours after dark to do a propper "FIX" . Tents , bed sheets even flags were used in Tubrok to do repairs on the RAF anti tank hurries . each ride would have a 12 - 15 man crew .

Sorry if the "make do and mend" policy of the RAF amazes you but it did happen alot. read a few books by the hurri aces . and it may seem incredable but it was a team effort.

One word for bullet hole patching on wooden / cloth skinned aircraft: DUCK TAPE. (Although it was probably the really cool camo color kind...) I suppose the 1940 alternative is cloth & fast drying cement, but you get the idea.

Bullet holes aren't that serious as long as nothing internal is hit. I'm reading a book on the marines defense of Wake Island on Dec 8-23, 1941, and VMF211 put their F4Fs into the air looking like swiss cheese and scored kills right up to the end. The civilian volunteers and mechanics even stripped engines and parts off of burned wrecks to keep em flying every day of the battle.

Necessity is the mother of invention, and it is amazing what can be accomplished in the heat of battle.

EagleDNY
$.02

Mister Fork · « **Reply #59 on:** January 05, 2007, 11:34:46 AM »

HT - if there was an option in the Arena setup panel to limit aircraft losses (ie. you're allowed to loose 5 aircraft/vehicles a day), then the repair hangar makes perfect sense. Repair times should depend on the health of the strategy too, same as it does to repair an airfield). I also agree that it should end your sortie.