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Offline KryptoniteXP

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« on: December 07, 2006, 06:11:45 AM »
I know that we have the rearm pad (though I don't see many use it), but I thought it would be cool if we had a repair hangar.

The time in the "Repair Hangar" to repair your aircraft could be blanket for all repairs.  Like 3 minutes in the hangar and you're good to go. OR it could be based on how many repairs you have done to the plane (1 repaired part takes 1 minute).  OR it could be based upon the part(s) (aileron = 30 seconds, elevator = 1 minute, rudder = 30 seconds).

What do you all think?  Hitech any thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 10:28:38 AM »
Sounds like a great idea to me.

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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 10:34:30 AM »
Yeah i also think its not a bad idea.

The amount of times i have had to rtb with practicly full ammo is silly lol (all my fault of course) but if i could repair my ride i could just reup and get back in there without having to get a new plane.

Good idea :aok
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 12:44:39 PM »
Too gamey in my book.  Of course, so is a complete re-arm in only 30 seconds, or the instant repair/re-arm of GV's after dropping supplies near them.  Repairs took hours or even days.  Just my opinion.
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« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 12:58:55 PM »
It's not going to happen. HTC has said "no" to instant repairs before, and I think for good reason.

If your plane is damaged, get a new one. They can't just come out with a new aileron and stick it on. The real process involves days of hard work, removing major parts of the wing to check for other damage, or even replacing the entire wing if the damage was extensive enough.

Keep it simple. Just tower out and get a new ride. It's less gamey, and it's already in the game!

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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2006, 05:22:45 AM »
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Originally posted by Krusty
It's not going to happen. HTC has said "no" to instant repairs before, and I think for good reason.

If your plane is damaged, get a new one. They can't just come out with a new aileron and stick it on. The real process involves days of hard work, removing major parts of the wing to check for other damage, or even replacing the entire wing if the damage was extensive enough.

Keep it simple. Just tower out and get a new ride. It's less gamey, and it's already in the game!


You make some very valid arguments.  I salute you for your well articulated thoughts :)

Here is another look at it....

Did it take 5-10 minutes for missions to fly to their destination? (nope).  Did ground vehicles "spawn" into Germany? (nope).  But as far as adding realism, this would add some.... Some people would pride themselves on trying to keep the same plane as long as they could, thus somewhat getting rid of the disposable nature of the planes in the game.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2006, 07:44:18 AM »
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Originally posted by KryptoniteXP
Some people would pride themselves on trying to keep the same plane as long as they could, thus somewhat getting rid of the disposable nature of the planes in the game.



So keep it out of harms way!
What sort of accomplishment would it be to fly a dozend sorties in a row if you are able to repair your ride between sorties???
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2006, 08:04:29 AM »
as for repairs taking days ......UTTER CRAP!!! My grandad worked on hurries IIA- in the BoB and II D north africa. Wing damage could be repaired withing 30mins.  tail replaced in 10mins . wing recovered in 5mins.
rearm in 2mins 30sec with a  6 man groundcrew. they could intorcept a bomber run TWICE . Once on the way in and again on the way out.
I say repair pads for wooden airframes.....that would be the Hurri and mossies.  
Just because the Yanks and Spit squadrons would be downed for having metal airframes shouldn't mean that aircraft in RL that could be turned round quickly should be held back.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2006, 09:12:28 AM »
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Originally posted by B3YT
as for repairs taking days ......UTTER CRAP!!! My grandad worked on hurries IIA- in the BoB and II D north africa. Wing damage could be repaired withing 30mins.  tail replaced in 10mins . wing recovered in 5mins.
rearm in 2mins 30sec with a  6 man groundcrew. they could intorcept a bomber run TWICE . Once on the way in and again on the way out.
I say repair pads for wooden airframes.....that would be the Hurri and mossies.  
Just because the Yanks and Spit squadrons would be downed for having metal airframes shouldn't mean that aircraft in RL that could be turned round quickly should be held back.


     Apparently your grandad wore a red cape and tights with a big S on
his chest.  The types of major repairs you describe take a heck of alot
longer than you describe.  Just rigging the flight controls on the tails
would take longer than 10 minutes.

     Patching a hole is one thing, replacing  internal framing is another
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2006, 09:24:25 AM »
The WWII RAF crew were always ready for repairs to fighter aircraft. he was part of a 12 man crew. With the lack of aircraft available you had to get your plane back up.  remember that the hurri was wood , damage could be repaired with bamboo cain ect. after comabt was over for the day they would work for upto six hours after dark to do a propper "FIX" .   Tents , bed sheets even flags were used in Tubrok to do repairs on the RAF anti tank hurries .  each ride would have a 12 - 15 man crew .  

Sorry if the "make do and mend" policy of the RAF  amazes you but it did happen alot.  read a few books by the hurri aces . and it may seem incredable but it was a team effort.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2006, 09:25:18 AM »
the hurri wing was modular by the way and so was most of the airframe.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 05:20:42 PM »
Spits also had wooden air frames.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2006, 06:20:57 PM »
I'm sorry I'm going to have to call "bullsh**" on that until you prove it.

Hell it would take 10 minutes to patch up some HOLES, maybe just holes. Cannon hits, no. MG hits, maybe. That's not counting having to get INSIDE the panel and pounding the dents smooth, and that's not to mention the patches on top would add a lot of drag on that particular part. I know the Brits had a "make do" attitude. They were desperate. If a plane had some holes they'd send it back up if a raid was inbound. If it was worse than that they'd spend a hell of a lot more time making sure it was functioning and flightworthy, otherwise they'd lose a pilot next flight. They had plenty of planes, they were short on pilots. I know for a fact they cared about the people more than the machines, and that means they took repairs seriously.

But people who have a couple of HOLES in their wings in AH don't need repairs. They can still fly. I do it all the time. These folks want entire ailerons, flaps, oil coolers, ENGINES, you name it, to be repaired instantly in under 60 seconds. That's BS any way you look at it.

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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2006, 09:31:30 PM »
Myself, I always thought it would add some nailbiting tension to the game.   Manuevering a damaged plane into a hangar and waiting say, 30 secs per damaged item for repairs, while trying to get it finished before the next enemy attack hits.

Obviously some damage would be non-repairable but guns, fuel leaks, and control surfaces could've been field repaired.    I never worried too much about the realism of the proposal - after all a plane couldn't get a full load of fuel and be completely rearmed in 30 seconds, either.

I tried to do a simple illustration here

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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2006, 10:02:57 PM »
I just find the discussion fascinating. I want to hear more. :D