Changes to come.

[Oldman731]

(David Eisenhower enters room)

"Here's some milk and cookies, and there's PLENTY for EVERYBODY!"

(tm David Frye, c. 1973)

So, this is probably a good time to suggest that tempers are running just a bit high here and there are other threads to check out!

- oldman

[scottydawg]

Hooray for cookies!!

And that's good advice re: the chillout... I think some people would do well to stand back and do some deep breathing exercises.

If I start to dislike the game, I'll just stop playing it and either find something else or just stop neglecting my family.

[Airscrew]

Someone said earlier, one of the causes of an arena imbalance is one side looses too many bases and get swamped, people start logging off because may they just get tired of defending and losing, or maybe the numbers are just too overwhelming.  I know that I have logged off when the HQ has been taken down and you cant find where the attacks are at until the base starts to flash and then its too late.

I just wonder what would happen if the strats (city, refineries, etc) were capturable and the bases were related to the strats but in reverse of the current zone system.  Capture all the strats and the related bases fall.  Use the new capture system that was tested and HQ is the last stand...

this is a quickie map I made to try and illustrate it.  This has been suggested in the past but I dont know if its a doable idea.  I would think the majority of the fights would take place in and around the strat areas.  Less fighting directly over the bases.  

[Kev367th]

Guess I'll leave it at this -

Only time will tell if these changes will be for the good or the bad.

But I personally know of one long time (since AH1) squad (not us) who will be leaving en masse this month, and going 'back down the hall'.

Maybe thats what it will take, a clear out of us 'oldies' to make way for the next generation.

[BaldEagl]

I haven't checked this tread in a while but so far I haven't had any problems whatsoever getting into an arena with eough players in it or flying with my country of choice although I do always play during "prime time".  I've even been able, for the most part to jump back and forth from map to map staying with my country.  My only comment is that in the initial post it sounded as though we'd still be using at least one big map with some modifications from the "blue line", zone modifications and some uncapturable fields and I haven't seen that.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Airscrew
Snipped for brevity

Now here is some thinking out of the box.
Makes fields secondary and makes  strat guy more involved.

Simple yet effective .



Bronk

[MWL]

Bronk,

That may be true, however he already has - arenas limited by Time Period, Plane Set and Dueling. As far as wanting us to play together, I think he just wants us to play nice. (Jeeze, sounds like me talking to my children  )

The comment about my children was a whimsical reference to the 'play nice' comment and not directed at you personnally.

Take a deep breath - it's okay.  I just don't buy your argument.  That's okay, we are both adults.  Plus, neither of us get to decide any way!

I just appreciate the opportunity to comment as the owner is obviously interested and monitoring this thread.

Regards,

[hubsonfire]

Originally posted by BaldEagl
I haven't checked this tread in a while but so far I haven't had any problems whatsoever getting into an arena with eough players in it or flying with my country of choice although I do always play during "prime time".  I've even been able, for the most part to jump back and forth from map to map staying with my country.  My only comment is that in the initial post it sounded as though we'd still be using at least one big map with some modifications from the "blue line", zone modifications and some uncapturable fields and I haven't seen that.

I believe HT is still tinkering with the blue line setup, and we will get it back once he's satisfied with it. At least that's the impression that I got. Until then, I think it's just business as usual in both LWAs.

Ditto on moving around at will. Still see enough disparity in the numbers that entire squads could move around at will, or find their side as an underdog in another arena. Numbers are, overall, closer than they have been during the hours I play, so it seems like a nice compromise to me.

[JB88]

Originally posted by hitech
That is not 100% accurate when it comes to games.

And do not view that statment as "I do not care about existing customers".

It is really just a simple truth that very few people play the same game forever.

HiTech

so far, this is the only MMOG that i have ever played.  

it had been the only one that i had planned to play for any meaningful period of time.  i am not a gamer by any stretch, but i like the community and i enjoy the game when it isn't causing me headaches like it did the other day.  i'd rather be elsewhere than have to deal with that.

for me it's really just a matter of courtesy.  if you are going to change a product that i or others have already paid for then it seems reasonable to expect prior notification and/or explanation when these changes come.

i hope that you can see the wisdom of going out of your way and  requesting beta testers for changes in the main arenas rather than forcing the whole group to be test subjects.  with a modicum of consideration i doubt that you would find many who would be opposed to the notion.  i keep saying this, but i feel that it still isnt sticking.  we pay you for this service.  it just isnt much to ask.  do you like service like this from others?

you might consider a notification list or maybe even a newsletter in the future.  i think it will clear up alot of the complaints that are happening now.

the way it stands its looks like you on one side and us on the other.  

i don't care how you cut it,  in my view that isnt progress, it's bad customer service, even if you ARE here talking with us after the fact to express that it is the way it is and you wont budge.  that isnt change. thats the "slum" that is becoming the standard and the status quo in these here parts.

best,
88

[Platano]

Just took me exactly 3 hours to read all these pages


But ummm... yea I like that Idea that HT said earlier....

If he could combine that Idea With 1 Late War Main Arena it would hopfully put an end to all this imbalancing whining BS...


But then Again whoever Listens to the Bananaboy

[Airscrew]

Originally posted by Bronk
Now here is some thinking out of the box.
Makes fields secondary and makes  strat guy more involved.
Simple yet effective .

Bronk

thanks Bronk.   I think my idea is place more focus on the strat side.  Bombers and tanks need to take down buildings.  Bombers will probably need escorts to survive.  If my play style leans to the "capture territory/win the war" I can contribute whether I like bombers, GVs, or fighters.   If my play style leans more to just fighter combat, ACM, stress relief, then that can happen also.

[Bronk]

Mole
Play type and arena type are 2 different things.

The MAs are just that allows all types of play have 3 sides and have scoring.

The AvA 2 sides diff plane sets depending on scenario and all play types . Once again depending on scenario. Ohh and no score.

Dueling has no scoring and and capture is irrelevant .

What you would propose is to further spit a community already entrenched in its style of play.

This is wrong, as i said HT want us to fight each other not go further apart in our own little arenas .

Bronk

[Edbert]

Originally posted by Bronk
Your logic is astounding.

There seems to be no logic to many of these guys. They make a choice and then say HTC is denying them a choice due to their choice of choices...."rolleyes" indeed!

Originally posted by hubsonfire
Ditto on moving around at will. Still see enough disparity in the numbers that entire squads could move around at will, or find their side as an underdog in another arena. Numbers are, overall, closer than they have been during the hours I play, so it seems like a nice compromise to me.

EXACTLY!

Every night (prime-time US) I have looked and seen where it was possible for an entire squad of 32 to switch en masse to one side in any arean they choose and fly immediately. Although I will acknowledge that my observations are , although true, purely anecdotal and this may not be true for prime-time EU.

[hitech]

JB88: If you even gave 1 min of thought to the changes we are making you would realize they can not be done in a beta fashion, because to find out the result to  any of it we need all the people playing.  

So you are just trying to find a reason to mud sling at HTC.


HiTech

[Platano]

hehe "mud sling".......

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