Author Topic: Vote American in 2008 (Read 1899 times)

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #15 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:38:11 PM »

So if you pay for something, you exert no influence?

Money = control

Neubob · « **Reply #16 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:39:35 PM »

I guess as a Jew who doesn't worship Santa, or Jesus, or whoever, I should leave too, right?

I guess I'll leave then, but I want all my tax dollars back.

OH, And BTW, corporate outsourcing is just an example of companies exercising their freedom to seek out labor that is cheap and effective. Without this freedom, these corporations will end up dieing at the hands of foriegn competition.

When you look at it that way, freedom is sort of a double-edged sword, sort of exactly like, say, I want the freedom to be free of your religious indoctrination. Where do I go? Apaprently, in your America, where there's 'freedom', I'd better get the hell out.

BTW, Merry X-mas... If it wasn't for foriegn labor, you wouldn't be able to afford a single ornament.

AWMac · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:41:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
So if you pay for something, you exert no influence?

Money = control

I'm talking about redoing a System that has dam near destroyed a Great Country. If no one is willing to try I may as well be sittin in a corner "Holden My Groin"

Mac

AWMac · « **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:46:44 PM »

Freedom of Religion. You have your Freedom and your Religion.

I don't see why you want to leave unless there is someplace you'd rather be.

Mac

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:47:19 PM »

I don't have a problem with rethinking the medical system, but I think socialism may not be the best answer.

and no seperation of church and state means no freedom of religion.

Neubob · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:52:24 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Freedom of Religion. You have your Freedom and your Religion.

I don't see why you want to leave unless there is someplace you'd rather be.

Mac

We have freedom of religion already, what if I want freedom FROM religion? What if that's what I want for my kids, and I can't afford to send them to a secular private school(or are those outlawed too?).

What if I want freedom to have some Indians do some coding for me because they do it cheaper and faster, and without them I couldn't stay competative and feed my family?

Unamerican?

A place I'd rather be? At the moment, not on your life. The second we get a whacko into office that puts rules into effect that limits personal and corporate rights to the extent described above, I'd be out of here, on a plane full of people whose brains and tax dollars you'll miss sorely.

AWMac · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2006, 07:55:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Neubob
I guess as a Jew who doesn't worship Santa, or Jesus, or whoever, I should leave too, right?

I guess I'll leave then, but I want all my tax dollars back.

OH, And BTW, corporate outsourcing is just an example of companies exercising their freedom to seek out labor that is cheap and effective. Without this freedom, these corporations will end up dieing at the hands of foriegn competition.

When you look at it that way, freedom is sort of a double-edged sword, sort of exactly like, say, I want the freedom to be free of your religious indoctrination. Where do I go? Apaprently, in your America, where there's 'freedom', I'd better get the hell out.

BTW, Merry X-mas... If it wasn't for foriegn labor, you wouldn't be able to afford a single ornament.

Corporate outsourcing takes the food off of American tables. Cheap and effective? Major Corporations are dieing from "Greed"...

Religious indoctrination? LOL Seems like yer already "indoctrinated" Tell me a bit more of Religious freedom. Studied Theology Univ of Maryland...did the Asian thingy too.

Now in all your glory tell me the REAL points I'm missing.

Mac

BTW I know both good Jews and Bad, Good Christians and bad, good Bhuddist and bad.... the list goes on... make your point or step aside.

If you don't like it then don't vote. Your Freedom.

Neubob · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:08:28 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Corporate outsourcing takes the food off of American tables. Cheap and effective? Major Corporations are dieing from "Greed"...

Religious indoctrination? LOL Seems like yer already "indoctrinated" Tell me a bit more of Religious freedom. Studied Theology Univ of Maryland...did the Asian thingy too.

Now in all your glory tell me the REAL points I'm missing.

Mac

You didn't answer my question regarding where I send my kids if I don't want a bible as part of the history lesson? Where?

Indoctrinated? Sure, okay, I'm indoctrinated in that I want no part of your fairy tale. You can send your kids to sunday school, or catholic school, and you're free to tell them that Darwinism is a fairy tale, but where is my right to do the same, with my beliefs? Or is that freedom gone.

Corporate outsourcing is a natural extension of the free market. It wouldn't be so rampant if it didn't make economic sense. If American companies cannot keep up, then they have to find ways to excell. If they cannot through their own developements and growth, then, I'm sorry to say, they've earned the right to die. Progress isn't something you can enforce with artificial regulations. It's a competative world (read, world, because that's where you live now, as national borders are no longer that relevant in the workings of economics), and you won't win by saying you won't play by these naturally evolving rules. Personally, I thought the American way was to win by winning, not by redefining the rules to suit your needs.

You'd make a horrible president, Mac. A viable dictator, but a horrible president. Either way, using the word 'thingy' won't win you much credability.

AWMac · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:30:59 PM »

Well I guess you are just happy as Hell the way things are in "Your" lil World Neubob... Was it something about "Freedom of Religion" that set you off on a tangent? Noooo... it was that one word.."Christmas Tree".

Well sorry Bud but if you don't like it there's the door. This is "America" not "Israel".

Mac

Sorry if I don't bend over to YOUR ways and needs. Just don't Vote. Be a Lemming.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2006, 08:59:34 PM »

You still haven't answered the question.

You said you'd dock the pays of senators, but...

Who will be paying for all of this?

AWMac · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2006, 09:20:36 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
You still haven't answered the question.

You said you'd dock the pays of senators, but...

Who will be paying for all of this?

It's already paid for.

By you, me and Millions of others. Do you actually believe that Social Security will run out before you are to old to work? Another lie fed to the Sheep.

Do you believe we are totally dependant upon Middle Eastern oil? Another lie fed to the sheep.

How much do you pay in taxes and show me in the other hand what has it gained you? Have you not already let the Gov Big Boys decide your worth?

The dollars we spend to Police the World is more than enough to cover Americans 5 times over.

Vote for a REAL change.

Mac

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2006, 10:19:14 PM »

Add to that all pay raises awarded to polititions at any level. from local to federal have to be approved by popular vote of the people.

No politition is allowed a state or federal health care, benifit, retirement package options any different then the lowest federal or state employee.

One pool for campaign financing shared equally by all parties. including 3rd parties able to get their names on the ballot No other funds may be used

Ban Canned or otherwise scripted interviews of polititions. That is interviews where the politition dictates what questions can and cannot be asked. Nor may any politition demand ahead of time the list of questions to be asked by any media or press outlet.

Onward to my favorites.
Removal of all redlights and speed limits.
Have minumum speed limits and not maximum speed limits

Women will no longer be alowed "Headaches"
And claims of PMS will be subject to 1 week in prison.

Ban the usage of Police officers from the popular practice and equivalent of roadside extortion by armed gunmen of motor vehicle spot checks for seatbelts and inspection sticker checks
These violations if they need to be enforced should be done as almost an afterthougt and in addition to legitimate and serious violations during the course of an officers day and not have entire squads devoted to clogging our roadways during rush hour with this silly nonsense

Ban state funding of "the arts"
People who care enough and want to see "The Arts" badly enough can and should fund it themselves

And a person is allowe to shoot someone "because they needed kill'n" without penalty so long as no more then 15 people outside of the persons immidiate family complain about it

gimme some time Ill think of some more LOL

AWMac · « **Reply #27 on:** December 10, 2006, 10:28:53 PM »

I knew I had your support Dred.

Thanks.

Mac

Vudak · « **Reply #28 on:** December 10, 2006, 10:54:11 PM »

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Originally posted by AWMac
Well I guess you are just happy as Hell the way things are in "Your" lil World Neubob... Was it something about "Freedom of Religion" that set you off on a tangent? Noooo... it was that one word.."Christmas Tree".

Well sorry Bud but if you don't like it there's the door. This is "America" not "Israel".

Mac

Sorry if I don't bend over to YOUR ways and needs. Just don't Vote. Be a Lemming.

That's gotta be the funniest thing any religious person can say.

Debonair · « **Reply #29 on:** December 11, 2006, 12:00:04 AM »

guy who makes the radar work is worth more than a president
also, you dont have to look at the radar expert
president u are forced to see pictures of all the time
it sux the pres.gov has to be so old, else we could elect the hottest chick in the counrty every four years & i could actually enjoy (if u noe what i mean) the 6:0o news