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Offline 68wolf

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« Reply #105 on: December 19, 2006, 12:48:32 AM »
im with yeager i would like some verication too and if so i would thourgh in some bucks too. just tell us that it is a prank or not.

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« Reply #106 on: December 19, 2006, 08:57:49 AM »
The Iceman cometh!!!!
Furgin Hell Mon!
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« Reply #107 on: December 19, 2006, 01:10:25 PM »
Here’s where we're at so far:

Jacqueline at Arlington Texas Crime Analysis (PD) states that neither Derek Bearden  or Jorge Mescina are in their system. There were seven burglaries reported on the date in question, but none match this description. Also, neither name appears in any Google search for such events. 817-459-5700

There is no Dave Walters (or Walter) on the roster at the Fort Wayne PD. 817-392-4200 [edit: It's also amusing in his "article" where he tells the detective to take his best girl to safety, while he continues the sweep of the house.]

Airscrew, working to give Iceman the benefit of the doubt, confirmed that such a story did not run in the Burleson Star by contacting the editor at his e-mail address. I called the publisher, Ike Massey, who reads all of their publications each week, and he had no knowledge of such an article running. He did remember the much less exciting c-store shooting. I sent him a copy of the last post to make sure, along with a link to this thread. I haven’t heard back yet, be we have been having junk mail filter issues, apparently. Of course, given the quality of the “article” that was posted -- he may be too embarrassed to admit such a thing if it did slip by the editor, fact check and proofing. I know I would be in total denial (and looking for another job) :) 817-295-0486

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Only reason that I let this guy even write the story was because he was the only media person that actaully called me, the rest were just trying to make me look like it was my fault asking crazy questions like why did you do this, and why that... DANG I hate the media !


The subject of a story has absolutely no control over whether it runs or not.

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That was like on the 18th when fox 4 said it. After I woke up the day after there were reporters from ABC and Fox there and they were just slamming me with questions, basically trying to make me look like a gun toating madman


No record of this at all, and if they were asking questions then there would be a record. You not answering questions only adds blood to the waters if it is an attack piece.

Quality of article: I have earned a living in either PR or Journalism for the past 14 years. I have probably written near 1 million published words during that time in various feature and hard news styles. Grammar and punctuation errors aside (could be transcription errors, after all), this article does not pass muster for a high school newspaper piece. For example, too much ancillary detail:

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Derek Bearden who as his fiance stated "frequents the gun range often" grabbed a .45 caliber glock pistol which happened to be in his shoulder holster slung around the back of a desk chair.


Ouch. That’s painful to read. And the morph into the happily ever after is unnatural in style and artificial in tone. There are too many to list. This is to journalism what the movie Pearl Harbor is to historical cinema.

Here’s a real hero from Arlington, Texas, who was easy to find. BTW, look at the tone. Hardly a self-defense hate piece looking to be buried somewhere.

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A 66-year-old grandmother is giving new meaning to the saying, "Don't Mess With Texas." Susan Gaylord Buxton of Arlington, Texas, shot an intruder who broke into her home using the .38-caliber handgun she keeps by her bedside. The intruder, Christopher Lessner, 22, suffered a leg wound and is now in jail.
For link: Google (Arlington Texas, shot, intruder)


Well, that was about 30 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.

Charon
« Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 02:53:19 PM by Charon »

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« Reply #108 on: December 19, 2006, 01:24:59 PM »
Smells like...  tastes like...  looks like...

Charon



p.s. I'll bet the "friend" who supposedly has Iceman28's (or whatever # Iceman he is) laptop for him is now reading these forums as either "guest" or under a new handle. Maybe Iceman42? ;)
« Last Edit: December 19, 2006, 01:28:27 PM by Westy »

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« Reply #109 on: December 19, 2006, 01:33:15 PM »
suckers...

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« Reply #110 on: December 19, 2006, 01:43:05 PM »
Very appreciative of  the time Charon & others spent trying to get the facts in this matter, I even wasted some time on it myself, checking the various high school newspapers for the alledged article alluded to by iceman,as I felt the quality of the work and detail could only be achieved by an ace high school reporter.
 
Guess that was when my crap detector went off the scale, would shooting yourself in the foot count as a sixth wound?

  I must admit I do look forward to these Internet drama queens telling us of their latest exploits, it really makes a slow afternoon at work go buy a little easier.
                   Sorry Betty, Guess the answer to your original question is no... no you should not post that here... to many skeptics
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« Reply #111 on: December 19, 2006, 03:51:07 PM »
Why do these tools even bother to try this type of thing? This forum,  as bad as it can be,  has some very bright people on it.


 Charon for outing a fraud.

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« Reply #112 on: December 19, 2006, 04:28:37 PM »
no matter what yall say....i still believe iceman, i have no reason not too, call me stupid, call me gullible, but needless to say, i'm his friend and i hope that he gets better soon.
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« Reply #113 on: December 19, 2006, 04:52:32 PM »
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There is no Dave Walters (or Walter) on the roster at the Fort Wayne PD. 817-392-4200
The Blue Knights of Texas need to update their website then since they have David Walters listed from FWPD.  Looked that up like 15 minutes after reading icemans post.  Also found a reference listing him as a founder of a christian police association from 2003.  Just sayin.

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« Reply #114 on: December 19, 2006, 04:55:19 PM »
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The Blue Knights of Texas need to update their website then since they have David Walters listed from FWPD. Looked that up like 15 minutes after reading icemans post. Also found a reference listing him as a founder of a christian police association from 2003. Just sayin.


The guy that answers the administrative line had no such name, though there was a David Walts. I'll call it again. Regardless, if the article did not run in the said newspaper, well, that kinda sucks.

Charon
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« Reply #115 on: December 19, 2006, 05:05:02 PM »
BTW.

Feel free to call any of the numbers I have posted to check those as well. In fact, it would be nice if somebody else did in fact do that, as long as these people are not getting 20 or more calls per day. Maybe Murdr would like to do that?

Charon

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« Reply #116 on: December 19, 2006, 05:14:37 PM »
Ice.....  were you by chance flying an F-16 while being bitten by a scorpion while polishing your own personal P-51 Mustang ?

Iceman= Voss

Sorry.... I know that bit is a repeat but it fit to well to let go.  :lol

Dave

P.S.  I own and carry a .45 Automatic.  If I had to ever use it in self defense and took a life with it.... posting on this BB would be the last thing on my mind.  Let alone in the fashion that Ice did.  i.e. cracking jokes about it.

Dave

Offline jtdragon

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« Reply #117 on: December 19, 2006, 05:17:02 PM »
this  happened in Burleson, tx, not Arlington.
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« Reply #118 on: December 19, 2006, 05:20:44 PM »
More news tomorrow.

There apparently is a detective David Walters in Fraud/Major Crimes that the night shift was able to find on their records. I do have a direct line so I will give him a call tomorrow. I guess this guy can absolutely confirm or deny these events. 817-392-4430

Charon
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« Reply #119 on: December 19, 2006, 05:21:53 PM »
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this happened in Burleson, tx, not Arlington.


No, according to Iceman it was Arlington, and the Arlington PD responded (poorly) according to him.

Charon