Good Riddance to Kofi

[lazs2]

so who tells the chief administrator what to do?

bet the people under him feel like he is the leader.

lazs

[Rino]

Originally posted by Viking
The UN isn't a world government.

     Just because it isn't yet, doesn't mean it doesn't want to be.  Just look
at all the morons who say that the Iraq war was "illegal" because the
Security Council didn't give it their stamp of approval.

[lukster]

Originally posted by lazs2
so who tells the chief administrator what to do?

bet the people under him feel like he is the leader.

lazs

He was certainly in charge of administering the Iraqi Oil for Food program and failed miserably if not criminally.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Rino
Just because it isn't yet, doesn't mean it doesn't want to be.  Just look
at all the morons who say that the Iraq war was "illegal" because the
Security Council didn't give it their stamp of approval.

Illegal wars have illegal consequences. Iraq is in civil war. The widely advertised freedom is yet to be seen. The WMD so far exist only on paper. Although there is now plentiful of Al Qaeda fighters - I though the goal was to get rid of Saddams Al Qaeda camps, which however were nowhere to be found? The amount of terrorists world wide hasn't dimished either, on the contrary. That alone makes the war illegal, because there are now more terrorists as a result of the war and they are threatening countries that opposed the war.

[WMLute]

"Over the past five years, 400,000 Iraqi children under the age of five died of malnutrition and disease, preventively, but died because of the nature of the regime under which they are living." (Prime Minister Tony Blair, March 27, 2003) Under the oil-for-food program, the international community sought to make available to the Iraqi people adequate supplies of food and medicine, but the regime blocked sufficient access for international workers to ensure proper distribution of these supplies. Since the beginning of Operation Iraqi Freedom, coalition forces have discovered military warehouses filled with food supplies meant for the Iraqi people that had been diverted by Iraqi military forces.

Saddam Hussein's regime has carried out frequent summary executions, including:

    * 4,000 prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison in 1984;
    * 3,000 prisoners at the Mahjar prison from 1993-1998;
    * 2,500 prisoners were executed between 1997-1999 in a "prison cleansing campaign;"
    * 122 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in February/March 2000;
    * 23 political prisoners were executed at Abu Ghraib prison in October 2001; and
    * At least 130 Iraqi women were beheaded between June 2000 and April 2001.

According to Human Rights Watch, "senior Arab diplomats told the London-based Arabic daily newspaper al-Hayat in October [1991] that Iraqi leaders were privately acknowledging that 250,000 people were killed during the uprisings, with most of the casualties in the south."

Human Rights Watch estimates that Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds. The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988.

yeah... things were sooo much better in Iraq before.  I bet they get all teary eye'd and nostalgic when they think of the way things used to be.....

Koffi (whom I detest) is personally responsible for the death's of all the children in Iraq by botching the Food for Oil program IMHO. (out of greed I might add)

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by WMLute
yeah... things were sooo much better in Iraq before.  I bet they get all teary eye'd and nostalgic when they think of the way things used to be.....

Koffi (whom I detest) is personally responsible for the death's of all the children in Iraq by botching the Food for Oil program IMHO. (out of greed I might add)

Now now...disregard human life under Saddam, the world was lied to by an American president about WMD!  Don't you know that being lied to is much more important  of an issue than human lives!

[WMLute]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Now now...disregard human life under Saddam, the world was lied to by an American president about WMD!  Don't you know that being lied to is much more important  of an issue than human lives!

Tell that to these poor peoples relatives.

The Iraqi regime used chemical agents to include mustard gas and nerve agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages between 1987-1988.

I swear some people are total idiots who forget history, even recent history.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Now now...disregard human life under Saddam, the world was lied to by an American president about WMD!  Don't you know that being lied to is much more important  of an issue than human lives!

I bet a billion dollars that if one of your sons tried to deceived you and then justified it using an equivalent argument, you would last about five second before chuckling to yourself and meting out the appropriate disciplinary action.

[WMLute]

Originally posted by Thrawn
I bet a billion dollars that if one of your sons tried to deceived you and then justified it using an equivalent argument, you would last about five second before chuckling to yourself and meting out the appropriate disciplinary action.

Let's say I caught my 17 yr old son smoking Crack a year ago.  He goes to rehab, and is supposedly "clean" now.  Then I hear from multiple sources that he's smoking pot again.  Multiple, reliable sources.  Pretty much everybody I ask tells me that yes, he is indeed smoking Crack again.  When I search his room, I only find the slightest "trace" of drug paraphanalia.  I decide to kick him out of the house.  Am I justified?

[Ripsnort]

Straw horses are just that, gentlemen, straw horses. The fact remains, the lefties in this world are more concerned with being "political correct" and anti-war because of lack of evidence of WMD than they are concerned with human lives.  Its sad, but true.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Straw horses are just that, gentlemen, straw horses.

Do you mean "Straw Men"?

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html

The fact remains, the lefties in this world are more concerned with being "political correct" and anti-war because of lack of evidence of WMD than they are concerned with human lives.

Cripes, here's another one.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/hasty-generalization.html

Its sad, but true.

You might find it sad, just like I might find it sad that all dogs are purple....but it doesn't make it true.  Darn, but it's easy to make to make unsupported claims.  Not much use though.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Thrawn
Do you mean "Straw Men"?

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html





Cripes, here's another one.

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/hasty-generalization.html


 

You might find it sad, just like I might find it sad that all dogs are purple....but it doesn't make it true.  Darn, but it's easy to make to make unsupported claims.  Not much use though.

Unsupported? Just do a search on "IRAQ" and WMD on this bbs.

[SteveBailey]

The widely advertised freedom is yet to be seen.

Falsehood.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Unsupported? Just do a search on "IRAQ" and WMD on this bbs.

The unsupported claim I was referring to was,  "The fact remains, the lefties in this world are more concerned with being "political correct" and anti-war because of lack of evidence of WMD than they are concerned with human lives.".

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Thrawn
The unsupported claim I was referring to was,  "The fact remains, the lefties in this world are more concerned with being "political correct" and anti-war because of lack of evidence of WMD than they are concerned with human lives.".

Again, do a search of IRAQ and WMD. More are concerned about "being lied to by Bush Admin" than "Ridding the world of a tyrant".

The claim stands. Unfortunately you are one "of them" and frankly I'm not sure how you can sleep at night.