take the challenge and speak the blasphemy

[FLS]

Jeez Silat, I'm already an infidel, why would I want more trouble?

 Merry Christmas!

[mosgood]

Originally posted by dmf
I comprehend enough to know that your god leveled a couple of cities, Turned a woman into a stack of salt for looking back. flooded the entire planet, sent his only son to his death.
  And dams you to hell for violating any of his 10 commandments, in fact in the first commandment he even starts that he's a jealous god, and doesn't want you to have any gods before, him which would make any civilized person wonder just how many gods thee really are out there to worship.

Not to mention the fact that he gave Adam and Eve the choice to gain wisdom or not then kicked them out of paradise for having a desire to know something.

You explain to me how a kind loving god can do that.
And don't say "cause thats how it was written" I want proof, not blind faith.

I'm guessing you didn't comprehend a BIG part of the Bible, if you believe that God is not a loving God for sending his son to his death.  He sent his son to his death for US.  Because he loved US.  He sent his son to the world to live a perfect life.. without sin or blame.. and then allowed his son to be blamed, tortured and killed FOR sinning to pay the price for our sins.  It was the exchange neccessary for the price to be paid.  

Sounds like love to me.  Then, he raised his son from the dead and brought him back to heaven (Love for his son).  For love of us.  WIN WIN

I'm not sure what you mean by giving Adam and Eve a choice.  In my Bible he warned them NOT to eat the fruit.. told them NOT to eat the fruit... not a choice.

He saved the woman from death... told her to live she can NOT look back.. duh!

What I think you are saying is, "If he kills or allows people to be killed.. how can he be loving?"  Not putting words in your mouth. just guessing.  My response is.. I'm sure the creator of everything has a little more of an educated idea of what DEATH, DYING really is.  And it's probably a WHOLE LOT different than any of our perspectives are.

I think that if you believe that you have an eternal soul.. the disposition and location of the SOUL part of you is a heck of a lot more important then the fleshy stuff that only last 80 or so years... maybe that's how God sees it as well.  (just guessing)

[lasersailor184]

BUSTED - Worldwide flood during man's time, the creation of the earth, beasts, and man all within seven days. You can scream and believe it all you want to, if you figure it'll save you from hell or for whatever reason, the bottom line is, these things just did not happen. If you think God appreciates your unwavering belief in such things, fine. You call it faith, I call it sucking up.

Busted?  Hardly.  Nearly all religions through out the world, even ones that weren't connected at all, have ancient myths about world wide floods.  Through the shear volume of religions claiming that it did happen leads me to believe that it may have.

Plus they think they found the Arc.  That's a big one.

Jealous of what? they seem to be jealous that the christians have found something to believe in.. some sort of inner peace and it... somehow... seems to make em very angry.

Jealous?  I had hoped you above all would get this.  Religion is only another form of control.  

Every single bad thing that ever happened in all of human history was caused by religion and governments.  Logic would conclude that we would be better off without either.

I'm not sure what you mean by giving Adam and Eve a choice. In my Bible he warned them NOT to eat the fruit.. told them NOT to eat the fruit... not a choice.

Please, adam and eve was only a concoction to attempt to make even the most righteous and courageous person feel guilty for something they never did.  Again, more control over man.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Busted?  Hardly.  Nearly all religions through out the world, even ones that weren't connected at all, have ancient myths about world wide floods.  Through the shear volume of religions claiming that it did happen leads me to believe that it may have.

Well, no one can find any trace of it having happened.  Whatsoever.  That's pretty busted to me.

Geologic evidence vs. heresay.  Yeah, "hardly," indeed.

If so many different regions have myths about worldwide floods, I think the logical conclusion is that many different regions have had some pretty tremendous regional floods.

But, of course, the ancients, having things like the world wide web, and satellites, would be in a prime position to judge if a flood really occurred all across the globe at the same time.

You're right.  Let's give this one a "maybe."

[Vudak]

Originally posted by lasersailor184

Plus they think they found the Arc.  That's a big one.

Who is "they," and why is it "think?"

[john9001]

"ancient myths "

[dmf]

Originally posted by mosgood
I'm guessing you didn't comprehend a BIG part of the Bible, if you believe that God is not a loving God for sending his son to his death.  He sent his son to his death for US.  Because he loved US.  He sent his son to the world to live a perfect life.. without sin or blame.. and then allowed his son to be blamed, tortured and killed FOR sinning to pay the price for our sins.  It was the exchange neccessary for the price to be paid.  

Sounds like love to me.  Then, he raised his son from the dead and brought him back to heaven (Love for his son).  For love of us.  WIN WIN

I'm not sure what you mean by giving Adam and Eve a choice.  In my Bible he warned them NOT to eat the fruit.. told them NOT to eat the fruit... not a choice.

He saved the woman from death... told her to live she can NOT look back.. duh!

What I think you are saying is, "If he kills or allows people to be killed.. how can he be loving?"  Not putting words in your mouth. just guessing.  My response is.. I'm sure the creator of everything has a little more of an educated idea of what DEATH, DYING really is.  And it's probably a WHOLE LOT different than any of our perspectives are.

I think that if you believe that you have an eternal soul.. the disposition and location of the SOUL part of you is a heck of a lot more important then the fleshy stuff that only last 80 or so years... maybe that's how God sees it as well.  (just guessing)

Ok so god was withholding knowledge fro Adam and Eve then, forbidding them to get it.
You didn't exp[lain why he blew up a couple of cities, and flooded an entire planet or the commandments.

Face it religion is warlike, always has been, always will be, you people don't seem to understand religion, here a little hint, EVERY single god religion with the exception of the Devil worshipers, and pagans,worship the same god, he it Muslims Jews, Catholics, or whatever, you all worship the same god, and yet you drop bombs on each other cause you god told you to, yea sounds like a loving god to me

[wrag]

Originally posted by Silat
http://www.blasphemychallenge.com/

 

Looks like you can personally damn yourself to hell forever, without ever having a chance at forgiveness, and by doing so you can receive a free copy of a DVD documentary called The God Who Wasn't There.

 

Looks like plenty of folks are taking the challenge and speaking the blasphemy of denying the existence of the holy spirit, posting it on Youtube and then sending a link of it to some internet outfit that's giving away a 1,001 of the DVD's.

 
According to Mark 3:29 in the Holy Bible, "Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin." Jesus will forgive you for just about anything, but he won't forgive you for denying the existence of the Holy Spirit. Ever. This is a one-way road you're taking here.
                         
 

Hmmm...........

denying the existance of the holy spirit .... is not my understanding of what  constitutes blasphemy.

[wrag]

Originally posted by storch
sorry that's not how Jesus is spelled.  you may find yourself desperately wanting asbestos underware a split second after your last heartbeat.  next question please.   indeed, happy winter solstice to you.  Jesus was born in the early spring and was executed in the early summer.  this is a pagan holiday but an enjoyable one to be sure.

Hmmmm..................

it possible there might be an oops here?   According to many scholars of such things the Birth was around Sept. 29?

What was the date of conception?

[wrag]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
You can murder, rape, and pillage and still be forgiven.  But you even speak ill of the god (read: the religion) and you're damned to hell forever?



Did the writers of the bible have a good laugh when they wrote that crap down?  Because it's still giving me the chuckles.

Hmmm........  thinkin if a look is made at the the rules/laws put forward within............

think it says if one commits murder one can NOT be forgiven while they remain in the flesh/upon the earth?  ALL that commit murder, proven that is, are to be sent to God.  That God and the innocent party are waiting to discuss things.

Rape, usually got the rapist the death penalty also.

As to the "speak ill of god"  and damned to hell forever.  Hmmm........ that is Not my understanding of the meaning of blasphemy.  One can do such and NOT be commiting blasphemy IIRC.

[wrag]

Originally posted by sluggish
They say there are no atheists in foxholes but aren't agnostics just atheists with no balls?

So unless you're born-again none of this counts right?  If you never "accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior" you could theoretically deny his existance until your deathbed, wait till the last minute, "see the light," and be welcomed into his arms...

However, if you acknowledge his existence and his place as god or the son of god or whatever, then denounce him, you shall forever and always be damned to the eternal fires of hell.

Kind of makes me want to not get my kids baptized...

Something I find sad is all the people that want to make claims like the above.  You can tell one thing.  That haven't actually read the book, or understood what they read if they did, but their sure ready to critique it.

NOPE...........

"However, if you acknowledge his existence and his place as god or the son of god or whatever, then denounce him, you shall forever and always be damned to the eternal fires of hell."  

............. is not my understanding of blasphemy.

[wrag]

Originally posted by dmf
Ok so god was withholding knowledge fro Adam and Eve then, forbidding them to get it.
You didn't exp[lain why he blew up a couple of cities, and flooded an entire planet or the commandments.

Face it religion is warlike, always has been, always will be, you people don't seem to understand religion, here a little hint, EVERY single god religion with the exception of the Devil worshipers, and pagans,worship the same god, he it Muslims Jews, Catholics, or whatever, you all worship the same god, and yet you drop bombs on each other cause you god told you to, yea sounds like a loving god to me

I've wanted to respond to your postings....................

It's just my opinion, do I see bitterness? Perhaps some anger?

I want to say that the answers to your questions are contained within the book you say you read and got the information from.  

The questions you are asking SUGGESTS ........ didn't actually read it? skiped around and only read certain parts?

Hmmm........... I do see a "you people"  within the posting. That suggest to me that your mind is already made up.

[DieAz]

Originally posted by wrag



............. is not my understanding of blasphemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy  < readth this and doth hath understandings.      

[AWMac]

Jesus, Satan and Allah walks into a bar...

The Bar tender asks what can I serve you?

Jesus orders wine, Satan a Scotch on the rocks and Allah water.

The Bar tender eyes all three guys and walks away...

With a wave of a finger Jesus points at Allah and "Poof" he's gone and Jesus Biyotch slaps the crap outta Satan and downs the Scotch....

Jesus looks Satan in the eye and sez... "Wanna see a trick?"  

"I can walk on water... can you?"

Satan replies "I can warm that wine for you if you want."

Later they had Fish and Chips....

Moral of the Story....

Believe in what you have in your Heart. Don't push your beliefs upon me because I have my own.  We can live together, just pay for the Fish and Chips!

Next water is on me.

Mac

Ohh and "MERRY CHRISTMAS" to all.

[lazs2]

vudak.. you are probly correct in saying that there has to be some balance in religion and those who bash it... that does not negate what I said tho.  While I would not want to see any religion get too powerful or have control of me.. I still feel that those who bash it.. who bash the rank and file religious with little kid sarcasm are pretty pitiful.

and lasersailor... no... every bad thing that ever happened is not because of religion..  some of the worst men of all times were athiests like the commies or simply insane and power hungry like hitler.   All the bad things happen about 90% of the time because of overpopulation.   Religion has been used as an excuse for some to act the way they do tho in a lot of the "bad" cases.

All intolerant religions are evil in my opinion but... secular people can be intolerant to an even greater degree and in a wider variety of things... never know what will set off a secular control freak.   If a man doesn't believe in god you can bet there is some nutball think he does believe in like socialism or bigfoot or aliens or man made global warming.... and you can bet he is gonna make bad things happen to me personaly because of his silly beliefs/religion.

The religion of the athiest is often a lot more dangerous to me on a personal level than the jehovas witness knocking at my door or trying to rid the library of some wicken book.

I fear the athiest more.

lazs