Would You Watch the Fatal Sting?

[sluggish]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Okay, so you assume you know what happened, but in fact you do not. Just so everyone is clear opn the fact that you do not know, you just made an assumption.

Let me ask you something:  Were you surprised when you found out he was dead and how he died (regardless of what animal got him)?  If your answer is no then you know I'm right.

(other than that I'll concede that my statement was assumption)

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by sluggish
Let me ask you something:  Were you surprised when you found out he was dead and how he died (regardless of what animal got him)?  If your answer is no then you know I'm right.

 That's the best arguement you have to back up your assertion that you know what happened? No. Seriously. That's it?


And yes, I was somewhat surprised.

And by the way, the camera man who was diving with Steve said HE startled the stingray, not Steve, and Steve in fact didn't do anything to it at all. You find out things like that when you read and listen instead of assuming.

One more thing. I guess you assume the guy who was stung the same way a month or so later was harassing that stingray as well.

[sluggish]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts


One more thing. I guess you assume the guy who was stung the same way a month or so later was harassing that stingray as well.

I don't know.  Did that guy have a history of messing with every wild animal that he came into contact with?

[Brenjen]

Originally posted by sluggish
You are refering to people whose job it is to recover dead bodies.  This subject is about people seeking out snuff films for their personal entertainment.  These are two totally different things.

 You apparently don't know what a snuff film is. What I referred to is not two totally different things, what you referred to is two totally different things. I'm not going to argue that your wrong because it's just your opinion & opinions differ but some opinions are just way out there & yours is too far out there to even comprehend for me.

[sluggish]

Originally posted by Brenjen
You apparently don't know what a snuff film is. What I referred to is not two totally different things, what you referred to is two totally different things. I'm not going to argue that your wrong because it's just your opinion & opinions differ but some opinions are just way out there & yours is too far out there to even comprehend for me.

A snuff film is a pop culture term for any number of possible definitions regarding a motion picture purporting to depict an actual death.

[brucerer]

Don't know if i'd watch it. Serveral good and opposing viewpoints here. Still, its gotta be better than that show his daughter is doing now.. have you seen that junk?!

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by sluggish
A snuff film is a pop culture term for any number of possible definitions regarding a motion picture purporting to depict an actual death.

Which nobody has been able to find a single instance of an authentic privately made snuff film put out on the market.

(Just watched a discussion of this on TV the other night)

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Mightytboy
I would watch it for no other reason than to see what he did wrong. As a diver who has been up close to sting rays I want to make sure I don't make the same mistake.

Given that he was killed by a stingray in shallow water, it seems to me we already know what he did wrong, yes?

[Benny Moore]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Do you feel guilty watching old WW2 footage of combat or gun camera footage?

Yes, I do.  One moment I am thinking, "Aim higher!"  And the next I have to acknowledge that a man - evil or not - died in great pain and fear.

However much I may watch gun camera films, I wouldn't watch the Irwin footage.  I see no benefit for me.  That doesn't mean that I look down on those who do, unless they treat it lightly, as sport.

[Mustaine]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Do you feel guilty watching old WW2 footage of combat or gun camera footage?

we all should no matter who....

I personally do feel a twinge when a 190 kills a bomber in a real WWII gun-cam (even though in-game I relish in doing so as I KNOW the difference... it is not an 8 man group of people I may have grown up with dying when I do it).

Originally posted by sluggish
A snuff film is a pop culture term for any number of possible definitions regarding a motion picture purporting to depict an actual death.

BTW Sluggish, this is in no way directly replying you YOU directly, just a generalization to the person's on the board saying they would watch said film in question.


"snuff" by your terms or another, it is watching another human being die for entertainment, or for sheer satisfaction, or for a sense you yourself are still alive, or whatever.... it is not out of respect for the deceased, and in fact almost by definition it is in disrespect to them.

If you want to see another human being die, you have many real life choices you can make to allow that to happen.

If you want to watch another REAL human being die on your computer while eating nachos or whatever you do sitting browsing the web you are a *****. You don’t have the nuts to join up in the military, offer to be a witness at a state execution, be a police officer in the central city of almost any major metropolis in the USA, or any of the number of ways you can watch another human being die.

The fact you are doing it online does not negate the fact you are not man enough to be there at the actual moment. You are hiding behind your "internet" saying "oh it is out there I can watch and not be involved, or be a part of it, or 'I'm not killing him', or whatever excuse you want to choose. Either way it is an excuse. Today seeing something online is like "hey, it's humor, or fun, or it doesn't matter in the grand scheme, or I'm just watching what "they" gave me.

That’s a major point by the way... just watching what "they" gave you. Did you seek it out, or did "they" email you a direct link, or did "they" call you personally on the telephone telling you where to go see it, or did "they" put it in a class syllabus and require you to watch it, or did "they" send you a post card in the snail mail telling you that you must see this or your family will die? How is it exactly you came across this video of another human beings death?


Many of you here have lost a loved one. If that video of them actually dying was available, would you post it to the general public?





Another point of topic... do you (people interested in the killing of Steve Irwin) frequent sites like orgish.com and the like? If so in all honesty why? Do you like to see other humans die?

Let’s step out for a moment and go to the evolutionist side of the thought process.... dying is "nothing" meaningless in your personal life someone you know dies; well, who give a ****. Let’s say your mother or father dies in a "horrible" way according to the current United States of America basic "standards" of ways to perish. If such happens, 2 things should happen:

1. You should be proud of the fact your loved one contributed to the "natural" chain of life on this floating blue sphere in the universe.

2. You should feel not uneasy at all about the public showing of your loved one succumbing to the "chain of life" that exists. For all you care nothing happened to them, they simply ceased to exist on a physical plane. Why do you not celebrate that continuation of the "chain of life" on our planet by publicly expressing their cease of existence, and re-assimilation into the food chain that is our planet?

Why is it exactly you do not do this?

[Guppy35]

When i read the accident report on the car crash that killed my 21 year old son and 15 year old daughter 16 months ago, there was mention of photos taken of my son still in the car as he was dead at the scene.

I have no interest in seeing those photos, nor would I want anyone else to see them.  I understand that for the sake of recording the event and detailing what happened it was neccessary for those images to be taken.  Other then that, it's no one's business and would serve no usefull purpose.  The broken body of my son in a photograph would bring me no comfort.

I would have absolutely no interest in seeing Irwin's death either.  I would hope his wife would destroy the film.  There can be no solace in watching it, only pain.

[sluggish]

Mustaine,

Excellent post.  Much better stated than I could have put it.

[sluggish]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Which nobody has been able to find a single instance of an authentic privately made snuff film put out on the market.

(Just watched a discussion of this on TV the other night)

You are referring to a snuff film in the classic sense of the urban legend in which a victim is selected, a scene set up, choreographed, and a murder is filmed, marketed and distributed for the sole purpose of entertainment for profit.

A snuff film by today's standard is any human death caught on film that is sought out for its entertainment value.  By that standard and judging by many of the posts in this thread, a snuff film is a very real thing.