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FastFwd · « **Reply #225 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:23:33 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
fstfwrd... again..you missed the point... if both cars cruise at 2 grand... but one runs out of gas at 4500 and the other at 6500... which will have the higher top speed?

Oh, there was a point? Well you must be right, because I didn't see one.

I mentioned that a german automaker has a 4.2 liter tdi - I think it might only be 4.0 liter. But it doesn't matter. It is speed limited to 155mph, which means it could do more if they let it. I think that would be fast enough for 99.999% of the population.

As for your question - you said yourself earlier that your elky cannot make 6500rpm in top gear.

Viking · « **Reply #226 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:24:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Choocha
The Link is Dead

The BMW one? It works fine for me. Try this one:

http://video.google.com/url?vidurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.com%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D-8071895731410147277&docid=-8071895731410147277&ev=v&esrc=gvpl&usg=AL29H21VoydULy4C7loh0k8GnoKTtEf6zQ

Or try opening Google Video and search for:

V.S Motor BMW E34 M5 1033bhp

Viking · « **Reply #227 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:37:56 PM »

I'm sorry the early E34 M5's had a 3.6 liter inline 6. Later they got a 3.8 liter V8. That M5 is probably the V8. My mistake.

Edit: No, I'm mistaken again. The 3.8 liter is also an i6.

eskimo2 · « **Reply #228 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:41:40 PM »

My take on this thread:

So far Viking is in the lead with 50 post.
Bronk is a bit behind with 33,
Mini D is right on his tail with 27 posts,
lazs2 has 12,
and Neubob & FastFwd are tied at 11

Viking · « **Reply #229 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:44:31 PM »

1K3 · « **Reply #230 on:** January 11, 2007, 03:49:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
I haven't pointed to any "euro hotrods". I've shown you a few streetcars. 500 hp crate engines you say. Apt name for them since they weigh half a ton. Europeans can get 500 hp out of a vacuum cleaner, and so can the Nippons. Did you see that Norwegian BMW? 1033 bhp from a 3.8 liter inline 6. That's engineering.

The RB26DETT from Nissan Skyline GTR can make as much as 1000 horsepower... with just 2.6 liter engine + twin turbos. It is an everyday super car (yeah Japan loves to compete with their tuned $50,000 Supras, RX-7s, and Skylines against $500,000 euro supercars:p ). Skyline's 4WD system can make newbie drivers intro experts if you put them on the twisty roads. The 4WD ATTESSA system makes this the SAFEST sports car (err super car!) in the road today.

JUN Tuned R-33 GTR

Performance
0-60 mph: 2.8 sec
0-190 mph: 12 sec

TOP SPEED: 234 mph!!!

Sale Price: 50,000 pounds
Cost to built by JUN Tuners: 150,000 pounds

My friends... This is the DEFINITION of muscle car and hot rod for the 21st century!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bdzTXJLxjaY

Viking · « **Reply #231 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:00:38 PM »

Yes the Skyline is awesome! Posted a nice picture of a black one above, with flames coming out of the exhaust. Pity the Nippons don't make it anymore. Edit: Oh wait! They do!

john9001 · « **Reply #232 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:16:22 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Europeans can get 500 hp out of a vacuum cleaner, and so can the Nippons.

i will call shenanigans. note: there is no "smiley"

Viking · « **Reply #233 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:20:17 PM »

There was one in my post.

1K3 · « **Reply #234 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:48:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
Yes the Skyline is awesome! Posted a nice picture of a black one above, with flames coming out of the exhaust. Pity the Nippons don't make it anymore. Edit: Oh wait! They do!

Notice that the flames on the exhaust only come out when it shifts or down shifts. That must be the twin turbos doing the work.

The new Skyline (R-35) GTR will go on sale in 2009. I know the prototype R-35 GTR is smurfy but the production model will look very different. R-35 GTR will be sold as a Nissan around the world. The price is ~$70,000. Most people here will say "why the **** would i buy a $70,000 Nissan!?". They are missing the point. Nissan is making a car that will destroy other cars on the track that cost 3 times as much. I also suspect that the engine power will be low (just only around mid 400hp for a twin turbo V-6 or Inline 6) so that Tuners companies can have the option to tune this car safely up to ~1000hp

eskimo2 · « **Reply #235 on:** January 11, 2007, 04:52:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Viking
There was one in my post.

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moot · « **Reply #236 on:** January 11, 2007, 09:30:06 PM »

Lazs, that's what I meant.
Unless there is a rational basis to these comparisons, it will come down to taste, and as we can see, subtle differences in suspension character are almost enough to tip the scales for many of us.

Blonde, albino, brunette, bald, or redhead?

Neubob · « **Reply #237 on:** January 11, 2007, 11:05:16 PM »

Lazs on a European-styled roundabout

lazs2 · « **Reply #238 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:37:25 AM »

This is silly.. they have guys here selling 1200 to 1400 hp crate engines... we probly have more 500 hp motors built here than they have cars built in england in 10 years.

It is simply easier and cheaper to get gut wrenching Hp out of American cars and easier to drive and maintain and pay for em here once you do. The aberations viking/shlotz/luftwhiner shows and and others are so odd and rare that they are allmost nonexistent. Every city here has a booming performance industry and.... as I said... SEMA is a multibillion dollar industry.

If you can make 1000 hp with at twin turbo crap box... we can make 2000 with a real motor on twin turbos.

The aussies get it... nothing like the torque and sound of a V8

and fasfwd... why would I want a smelly little crapbox that my elky can do everything better at costing half as much to build and.... I can find it in a parking lot and... smelly diesel is more than gas here per gallon. gonna get worse too as the newest regs kick in.

viking/shlots/naziboy... hot rods are street cars.

neubob... that is funny... in aptos I did that around one in my elky and I "drift" onto the freeway from the on ramp a lot. It is an old old American tradition... In england I hated the roundabouts... I would try to find a gear in the crappy fiat that I could stay in (so I didn't have to shift) and dive into the thing while trying to read the signs and figure out what all the white markings (looked like alien crop circles) painted on the street meant.

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #239 on:** January 12, 2007, 08:42:57 AM »

so all you brits and your-0-peeans replying to this thread... what is your hot rod (street car) and what have you done to it? quarter mile times and 0-60? My guess is that most of you don't even know how to change the oil.

Come on.... what do you really drive? How many of you have a power to weight ratio of 10/1? 8/1? 6/1?

Check out what your car weighs... a lot of the little jap cars here are getting real close to 4000 lbs.

lazs

lazs