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Offline Bodhi

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2007, 03:01:55 PM »
looks to me a lot more like spraying and praying... but hey it did die.
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2007, 03:02:41 PM »
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2007, 03:09:37 PM »
Come on Bat you know that d1000 are like little gifts from heaven. If it happens twice in one night then god is your co pilot.

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2007, 03:19:46 PM »
maybe FX, but i would usually associate 'spray and pray' with the nose bouncing all over and continuous fire for minutes at a time.

perhaps one could argue that that shot was 'shooting without much chance' but i honestly considered it likely that i would get hits, if not do damage.

maybe its all down to a possitive/optimistic mentality?

notice in the text buffer a few seconds earlier 'youre gonna die 190D'

how many people would have just given up and let the 190 run away?


'spray and pray'  VS  'calculated long range gunnery that got lucky' ?


i knew someone in the military, he told me that if you can see the target then you can hit it with a 50cal weapon.


thanks for the nice comments guys, it really was a 'jump out of my seat and ROFL' moment that was sweetened with a little whine.

thought worth sharing



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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2007, 03:25:52 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2007, 03:25:56 PM »
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you must remember that some of us who dont fly the spixteen have to actually hit our targets with some force, not just a quick 2 ping super 20mm snapshot kill for most planes.


Hey, don't discount those .50's.  I was sawing wings off bombers the other night in a FM2 with only 4 .50's almost as efficiently as the 2 20's/2 .50's on my Spit 16 usually do.  8 .50's is probably as deadly if not deadlier than a Spit 16.

BTW, I also got a D1000 kill shot in that FM2 the same night.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2007, 03:31:51 PM »
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but seriously, dont listen to people who tell you shooting beyond 300 yrds is pointless.


it really isnt.


Beg to differ, but it is in a Hurri MK1 or Spit 1! Over 300 out and you'll be lucky to scratch the paintwork!
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2007, 03:41:50 PM »
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BTW, I also got a D1000 kill shot in that FM2 the same night.



WTG. half the guns, takes twice the skill/luck!


only two planes ive had lucky kills at extreme range are flying the P38 and the P47.



and mac.....yes hurri 1 it is pointless to shoot beyond D50(fifty) :)
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2007, 03:47:10 PM »
Just last night when I was in a Ki84 I ran out of 20mm on bombers, and only had 220 50cal left, and had this LA7 that was running from me. He got further and further away but I knew I could hit him so I took aim and as he was opening up past 800 on the deck I managed to saw his wing off with some steady hit sprites at the starboard wing root.

Such shots are indeed sweet! Everybody on range heard me shouting gleefully that I pulled it off.

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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2007, 03:49:01 PM »
"i knew someone in the military, he told me that if you can see the target then you can hit it with a 50cal weapon."

I've just had a look outside, and I can see the moon. What kind of lead would I have to pull in order to hit it?

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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2007, 03:49:05 PM »
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I'm certain you can't see any object one kilometer away.


I have to wonder if you can see a fighter from 1K away...  

But as an educated guess...

Whats the minimum height for a cessna type plane over a civilian area...

I ask this cause every now and then we get this plane flyng aerobatics over our house (man you can hear him giving the poor thing some stick).  

Its been quite a while since I heard him (or her) but I would think that he has to be higher than 3333 feet which is one KM and I can see him....

But this is with the blue sky as a background, then again I dont have anywhere near perfec vision (find it hard to read a street sign when I pass it in a car or on my Motorbike)  

Someone here who is in the airforce should take a photo or video from their cockpit of another fighter that is a click away then we whould have an answer.....

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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2007, 04:00:21 PM »
10 mph cross wind would make a 1000 yard shot very dificult. Ever looked at a target from 1000 yards i have and without optics a car looks like a pin head. Your front sight would cover 10 feet at that yardage. Even with a full auto gun you would really need to walk it in and that on a standing target thats not moving.

Those guys in ww2 had a hand full shooting at fast movers.

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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2007, 04:00:27 PM »
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"i knew someone in the military, he told me that if you can see the target then you can hit it with a 50cal weapon."

I've just had a look outside, and I can see the moon. What kind of lead would I have to pull in order to hit it?



:lol very clever.



what you might want to think about is this guy said 'see the target'


how many military operations do you suppose the target of choice is the moon? ;) almost all targets that they would shoot a 50cal at would be on the ground and in most instances you wont be able to see your target from more than more than a mile or so, i would have thought.





mussie: i am very lucky to have clear 20/20 vision, on a clear day standing on top of the hill near my house i can clearly see the tiny bright white speck of a seagull in flight 1-1.5 miles away over the town.


think about an airliner, while i realise it is bigger than most aircraft we use, they fly at something like 33,000ft dont they?

can see them clear as day even down to the individual windows lit up during night time.
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2007, 04:16:04 PM »
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10 mph cross wind would make a 1000 yard shot very dificult. Ever looked at a target from 1000 yards i have and without optics a car looks like a pin head. Your front sight would cover 10 feet at that yardage. Even with a full auto gun you would really need to walk it in and that on a standing target thats not moving.

Those guys in ww2 had a hand full shooting at fast movers.
my point exactly, I've looked at a target (goat) 1000 yds away with a scope and then with iron sights.  it's not a shot I felt comfortable taking through the scope, forget about the iron sights.  the longest I'll dare shoot at is 300yds with a good scope.  beyond that I can't say I'll get a clean kill.  that is from a steady rest with a great rifle, controlled breathing at a stationary target.

in BF's defense he's whacked me 800-1000 more times than I would really care to admit so there is a level of skill involved.  it also helps that the BS modelling on all things allied in this game works in his favor.

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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2007, 04:32:56 PM »
Keep in mind 1000 yards isn't a mile. A mile is 5,280 feet, 1000 yards is only about 3000 (about 3 feet to a yard). So seeing something 1000 yards out is still only 3/5ths of a mile (a little more than half a mile). Closer than you think.

I have 20/20 eyes as well (only person in my family, actually, I lucked out!). I also live under the traffic pattern of a smaller airport. I get lears and twins over my backyard every day. Some of these guys are at least 5k or more (as the airport is a long way off, they're still on approach), but I can not only make out gear doors, passenger window, but oil streaks on engines and individual colors (blue stripes from the nose to the tail, and what-not).

I don't think SEEING at that range is hard. Hell a lot of WW2 ace pilots had better than 20/20 vision. I think SEEING it would be the easy part, even at greater ranges. But like FX said, we don't have wind in AH. We don't have a lot of things that would hamper long-range sniping. Effective range ("pull the trigger and it dies") was much closer in reality. So, no, you couldn't pull this off if it were totally realistic, but you'd be able to SEE better than what you see here. Here you just see black lines of pixels.