Author Topic: Let the games begin! Hillary 1, Obama 0 (Read 6168 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #165 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:31:11 AM »

sandie... to even ask the question would imply that there was any answer other than no, people won't shun hillary because she is a woman (debateable) or osama bama because he is black (also debateable).

The question was an implication of possibility. The U.S. would elect a thatcher or a powell.. at least some studies have shown it to be.

even mt feels guilty about suggesting that people won't vote for hillary based on her being a "woman".

lazs

lukster · « **Reply #166 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:26:09 PM »

Maybe when Clinton wins the party nomination Obama will run independent. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Sandman · « **Reply #167 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:28:46 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
sandie... to even ask the question would imply that there was any answer other than no, people won't shun hillary because she is a woman (debateable) or osama bama because he is black (also debateable).

The question was an implication of possibility. The U.S. would elect a thatcher or a powell.. at least some studies have shown it to be.

even mt feels guilty about suggesting that people won't vote for hillary based on her being a "woman".

lazs

I'm not sure how, "NO" can be an answer to this question:

Why are WE trying to dissuade the middle east from their anti-women, anti-tolerance, and anti-democratic ways?

lukster · « **Reply #168 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:33:28 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Please.

Busy lately. Won't forget though and will give you several examples of Muslims spreading sharia thoughout the world. I give you Somalia for now.

storch · « **Reply #169 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:47:16 PM »

i'll back somalia up with sudan

Sandman · « **Reply #170 on:** January 30, 2007, 05:53:58 PM »

Okay... now that you have the acts of violence covered, can you please demonstrate that this violence was motivated by the desire to spread sharia, their anti-women, anti-tolerance, and anti-democratic ways?

Kieran · « **Reply #171 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:29:05 PM »

I gotta tell ya... I'm sick to death of this Republican administration. Desperately sick.

Bush is a failure. Sadly, the only reason he won the second term is because of the ineptness of the Democratic party. Total lack of a viable option left people to choose the known evil over the unknown.

Now we face a double unknown. McCain? Clinton? Rudy? Obama? Man, I don't really think I like any of them. I'm hoping some dark horse with a clear voice and message emerges, but recent history doesn't favor us.

Though I am primarily a conservative, I would happily vote for any candidate that had a clear idea of what they wanted to accomplish to better this country, even if I don't agree with all the points. I want someone to tell me what they are for, and how they'll do it. Make me believe.

midnight Target · « **Reply #172 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:33:59 PM »

Well look who crawled outta the woodwork!

How you doing Kieran?

Sandman · « **Reply #173 on:** January 30, 2007, 06:34:28 PM »

My thoughts exactly...

Welcome back, Kieran.

bj229r · « **Reply #174 on:** January 30, 2007, 07:45:10 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
sandie... to even ask the question would imply that there was any answer other than no, people won't shun hillary because she is a woman (debateable) or osama bama because he is black (also debateable).

The question was an implication of possibility. The U.S. would elect a thatcher or a powell.. at least some studies have shown it to be.

even mt feels guilty about suggesting that people won't vote for hillary based on her being a "woman".

lazs

What's funny is the near rock-star popularity Obama has with guilt-ridden white Hollywood liberals, versus Black Amuurica's collective yawn regarding his candidacy---he's NOT one of them. (Which probably makes him more receptive to said limousine liberals)

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/16256067.htm

Eagler · « **Reply #175 on:** January 30, 2007, 08:19:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Kieran
Though I am primarily a conservative, I would happily vote for any candidate that had a clear idea of what they wanted to accomplish to better this country, even if I don't agree with all the points. I want someone to tell me what they are for, and how they'll do it. Make me believe.

Newt in '08 !!

E25280 · « **Reply #176 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:05:57 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Okay... now that you have the acts of violence covered, can you please demonstrate that this violence was motivated by the desire to spread sharia, their anti-women, anti-tolerance, and anti-democratic ways?

I think you may be spliting hairs a little too finely.

They are committing acts of violence.
The reason for the violence is to force people to live by their rules (or die if they don't).
Their rules are based entirely on their religion.
Their version of that religion includes "anti-woman" aspects.
Their version of that religion excludes tolerance for anyone who disagrees with their view of that religion.
Their version of that religion by definition excludes any hope of "democratic institutions" as that would imply acceptance of a view other than their own.

So, do they say, "Hey, we are fighting here so we can oppress women, be intolerant and be anti-democratic"? Of course not. But the effect is the same.

What did I miss?

lukster · « **Reply #177 on:** January 30, 2007, 09:54:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Okay... now that you have the acts of violence covered, can you please demonstrate that this violence was motivated by the desire to spread sharia, their anti-women, anti-tolerance, and anti-democratic ways?

Please name one middle eastern country that practices sharia (most of them) that allows even a semblance of equality for women (where they don't execute a woman for being raped), allow people to choose their own religion (part of the tolerance aspect), and is a democracy?

lukster · « **Reply #178 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:03:31 PM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
Newt in '08 !!

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #179 on:** January 30, 2007, 10:35:32 PM »

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Originally posted by bj229r
What's funny is the near rock-star popularity Obama has with guilt-ridden white Hollywood liberals, versus Black Amuurica's collective yawn regarding his candidacy---he's NOT one of them. (Which probably makes him more receptive to said limousine liberals)

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/editorial/16256067.htm

Obama's getting a strong following on Facebook, a college networking web page. 53,300 people are in a group supporting Obama, and we are a year and 3/4 out from the election.

Another group supporting obama has 178,400 people in.

As well as http://www.studentsforbarackobama.com/index2.php .

Support for Hillary on Facebook isn't large at all, but even can be considered small. As well as a couple ABH groups.

Me? I'm almost willing to vote for Obama if it pushes up the revolution date a year or two.

Author Topic: Let the games begin! Hillary 1, Obama 0 (Read 6168 times)

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