the three things I harp on...

[lazs2]

eagl got me thinking about it... about what I think is important and why..

I am an individualist...  I believe, like the founders, that the individuals rights are the most important thing...  this causes me to think of things from that perspective just as it makes my enemies in the blue areas think the oppossite...

Why we can never be one nation...

Guns.. the number one tool of the individualist.. without them there is no protection from tyranny.   political or personal... the street thug or the socialist.  The founders understood this and made it the number two amendment right after being able to talk..

Blue voter socialists hate guns in the hands of individuals.. they don't want you to be a threat to their big government takeover in your life and they don't want you to feel that you can do without their protection... that is why it is so important to me and... to the blue voters to take away from us...  no individuals will be allowed..

cars... hot rods... iron horse... the ability to escape.. to be free in where you go... no strip searchs at the airport of public transportation people movers... the blue socialists hate it.. they can't control it worth a damn.   They see no need... they like to be sardine people in any case.. living one on top of another and pretending they can't even see each other.....

For the individualist... if the pressure of population gets to great he can get in his car and take a trip... the loafer wearing metrosexual taxi riders can't....they can't jump in the hated cars and take off so... when the population gets to them.. when people around them start bugging them.... they pass laws.... laws to make people act like they want them to act or to make it so they can't do things they don't like or care about...

Hot rods are a slap in the face to a socialist... everything evil about the individualist is distilled in the hot rod and the gun.

and lastly... I am concerned about socialism for...well...obvious reasons... it is the mantra of the metrosexual sardine people and the enemy of the individual.

sooo... I tend to trigger on those three things.

I tend... no... absolutely see these things as black and white...  I am amazed at people who think they are individuals but still want some nanny laws to protect people from themselves.

lazs

[Toad]

I've read this and thought about it and I think I need to work towards passing a law that would take your guns away, derprive you of motor vehicles and send you to a socialist re-education camp.

It's the only way to "save" you.

[lasersailor184]

Democracy isn't all that it is cracked up to be.  All it takes for half the population to get screwed is the other half of the population having one more person.  This affects more and more people when you have larger units of government.

But it wouldn't be so bad if you made units of government as small as possible.

[CHECKERS]

Hot rods are a slap in the face to a socialist... everything evil about the individualist is distilled in the hot rod and the gun......



   I own  3 Hotrods , and Laz, you are right ... Al Gore fanboys, Democrats/ Socialist ( < same thing )  flat hate me & the cars .    

 
 I have lots of guns , they are a comfort where I live & they are at least 1 hour faster to protect me and my family and my hotrods ...
 
 

 Bob/ CHECKERS

[RedRadr]

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Democracy isn't all that it is cracked up to be.  All it takes for half the population to get screwed is the other half of the population having one more person.  

  thus,the electorial college, shows how smart them guys really were...

[nirvana]

I disagree with you about cars.  The people in "blue areas" drive hybrid's.

[Halo]

Always gonna have yin and yang, including in
health care,
welfare,
abortion,
frivolous lawsuits,
liability limits,
capital punishment,
education,
taxation,
zoning,
immigration,
immunization,
birth control,
sex in general or specifics,
gay marriage,
gay parenthood,
children's rights,
animal rights,
embryo rights,
global warming alleviation,
transportation,
energy,
defense,
gerrymandering,
religious tolerance,
nuclear control,
offshore drilling,
national park mineral and timber exploitation,
global warming,
stem cell research,

and probably several hundred more.

The 2008 elections will be among history's most interesting and possibly pivotal.

[cav58d]

I wonder if the 08 General Election will prove to be the highest voter turnout in U.S. History (which when measuring voter statistics over the decades, the 08 election should top the 04 elections record #'s), or if it will be slightly lower because most American's have become burnt out and bored with politics.

[culero]

lazs, you forgot the suffragette movement, didn't you?

[oboe]

Lazs are you still a member of a union?    Do you still work at a public utility?    Is the public still paying for the gasoline for your vehicle?

This information came out in a thread a couple years ago.    Never sounded too much like an individualist to me (not that there's anything wrong with that).  

[storch]

and I break out into a gary newman tune

[republic]

Red State...Blue State....Democrat...Republica n....   If only life were so black and white.

Not all Democrats are baby killing, communist, "Anti-Americans", who'd rather save a owl than protect our citizens.   Not all Republicans are fascist, dictatorial, warmongers trying to legislate morality, and impose their own unique views on everyone.

For the vast majority of us who share views on both sides of the isle...the attempt at polarizing the nation (pushed by the media) is growing very old.

Anyone who believes 100% of the rhetoric on either side of the isle...needs to get out more...and when they do they'll find more greys and less black and white.

[nirvana]

That's right republic, but it's easier to live when you can fully support one side.

[john9001]

Originally posted by republic

Anyone who believes 100% of the rhetoric on either side of the isle...needs to get out more...and when they do they'll find more greys and less black and white.

your right , i'm going to vote grey in 2008.

[Skuzzy]

All politicians are self-serving ego-maniacs.  The only thing you can hope to accomplish is to find the ones who are less ego driven and less self-seving than the others.

Of course, if they really lie well, like the Billary or the Obama, they could end up in office anyways.

I absolutely do not believe a single thing anyh politician says.  The media drives them, the people do not.  They know they can lie and get the votes they need and then do exactly what they want with absolutely no repercussions.  The only time there are any repercussions occurs when they manage to step on the toes of another politician.

But they can maul the people all they want and still get plenty of support.  They can lie, the can vote to fill thier wallets, while we stand around gawking like a bunch of pie-eyed mooks.

What triggers me?  Not much anymore.  People having conversations about politics, like it will actually make any difference, is rather silly to me.  People ranting about X brand versus Y brand versus Z brand of politician.  They are all crooks, liars, ego-maniacs, and generally the lowest form of life on the planet.  I would call them pond scum, but that would be an insult to pond scum.  I think people who actually believe polticians have had frontal lobotomies.

And if it sounds like I have given up, then I will have to admit, I do not see any point in it anymore.  They will do what they want to do regardless of what the people want.  And if they happen to do anything that benefits anyone other than themselves, then it was just overflow from the benefit(s) they derived.

Yet people will continue to yell loud and long, regardless of how futile it really is.  Such an enormous waste of energy.