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« Reply #75 on: January 30, 2007, 09:34:30 AM »
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its V-day .... Aurgh .....  time for the "not responsible for people Frelling up there Gamers with this pile O S ... "  

or How about a "Idiots on Vista Forum ..."

(Skuzzy ,   I wont say a word if ya happen to trip over "The Cord" today )  

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Just hope he doesn't put "The Cord" around his neck, over vista.:(


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« Reply #76 on: January 30, 2007, 09:50:25 AM »
maybe Skuzzy shud put "USE VISTA AT YOUR OWN RISK" sign on the site:rolleyes: :aok
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« Reply #77 on: January 30, 2007, 09:55:29 AM »
First I need to quantify the impact this OS is going to have on the game.  I already know what the impact will be, but I need to put numbers to it.
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« Reply #78 on: January 30, 2007, 09:58:39 AM »
DRM is crap

I transferred some mp3 I made from my own CD on my MP3 player being the dork I am I deleted the file on my computer I was unable to transfert  back because meanwhile I changed my computer ... so I've to generate the mp3 again ...

I'm pissed.

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« Reply #79 on: January 30, 2007, 10:07:35 AM »
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Damn MS's marketing to hell.


Skuzzy gives me some of the bestest quotes ever!


But..onto the matter at hand.


*waves his hand*
Vista is not the OS you are looking for...
You want to support OSX...
Move along...

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I use OSX for work, and Windows because my games make me.  I despise Apple's hardware and Jobs ego but...I can't argue with an OS that just works...and leaves me alone.  It's also fun to run XP in a window, and when it acts retarded...I can Force Quit it.  :)  It's one of my favorite things.

Maybe one day Linux will grow up, or OSX will be freed from the iron grip of Apple only hardware....I can dream can't i?
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« Reply #80 on: January 30, 2007, 12:25:59 PM »
I feel the same as most of you guys. Unfortunately my experiences with Linux are that it's fun but clunky and awkward and in no way ready for day to day use far less games. Theres no way I can enable 3d acceleration on a 9600 pro no matter ho often I type xorg config or whatever!

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« Reply #81 on: January 30, 2007, 12:26:26 PM »
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« Reply #82 on: January 30, 2007, 12:48:16 PM »
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Skuzzy gives me some of the bestest quotes ever!


Ditto!!! :t :rofl

The news had a short blurb about Vista last night. It was the local news. They said it probably won't run on your old computers, and even current computers would run slower with it installed. They said the only reason you should get it is if you're getting a brand new computer.

Well, I really hate them for being so shallow about it. However, I hope (hope!) that this will slow down the lesser-informed PC users out there. Hopefully they won't get it right away.

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« Reply #83 on: January 30, 2007, 12:54:45 PM »
I don't think anything will keep the "off the shelf" buyers from picking up a Vista machine regardless of what is reported. Unless someone comes out & says:

"Vista will report ALL your online activity to the authorities including porn surfing, credit card & debit purchases, downloads, passwords...everything!"

 Even though I just made it up, I think it would take a rumor that drastic to significantly slow sales of Vista machines. :noid

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« Reply #84 on: January 30, 2007, 02:00:49 PM »
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Unfortunately, Linux support would be worse.  As much as I like Linux, it is not something I would ever want to support for a game.


Could you elaborate, please? I'm really interested in knowing the reason. And I solemnly promise I won't argue with you ;)

I've dabbled in Linux for many years, mainly because I'm curious. Actually, what's holding me back from ritualistically removing windows from my system, is Aces High support and support for my sticks (TM Cougar setup and various CH controllers).  For me, there is nothing attractive about windows; the only thing windows has is Aces High and stick support. Not much, but important nonetheless.

Wouldn't it be a dream if Linux had such a desktop presence that it would be crazy for peripheral makers to not make linux drivers? I'm tired of windows winning by default. Even if they make a horrible...Ah, it's no use ranting...

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« Reply #85 on: January 30, 2007, 02:30:39 PM »
Because linux has too many variations, too many custom-compiled kernels, too many open-source versions, too many of everything. There are almost as many unique versions of linux as there are people that use it. Imagine trying to code a game to run on even a fraction of it. And then if it doesn't run on person X's computer, you have to work with them through a lot of technical support to get it running, or even just say "I'm sorry it won't work on your OS".

Say what you will about Windows, it's usually pretty consistent from computer to computer.

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« Reply #86 on: January 30, 2007, 03:34:19 PM »
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It really does not matter.  I have been reading a few reviews about Vista and they all appear to paint a rosie picture.  Not one of them even attempts to say anything negative about this pile-of-poop OS.

I really should just shoot myself and get it over with.


Lol, already told my boss that if any new laptops arrive with vista on, say bye bye to it.
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« Reply #87 on: January 30, 2007, 06:30:50 PM »
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Because linux has too many variations, too many custom-compiled kernels, too many open-source versions, too many of everything. There are almost as many unique versions of linux as there are people that use it. Imagine trying to code a game to run on even a fraction of it. And then if it doesn't run on person X's computer, you have to work with them through a lot of technical support to get it running, or even just say "I'm sorry it won't work on your OS".

Say what you will about Windows, it's usually pretty consistent from computer to computer.


I hear ya, but aren't you just a bit too pessimistic?
I remember playing "Castle Wolfenstein" on linux some years back (with better framerates, might I add). That game didn't have me jump through hoops to get it working. I wasn't, and I'm surely still not, any linux expert in any regard, but it was real easy. No special requirements except the normal "kernel-so-and-so, xfree-xx, and openGL accelerated vid drivers".

It is possible that many enthusiasts have setups that would choke on a given game, but those guys know what they're doing and aren't expected to complain loudly when a game doesn't work on their frankenstein. Most gameplaying linux users would go with a "mainstream" and popular distro, and those are pretty streamlined and predictable. Heck, linux is easier to keep updated than windows; most distros update automatically if you don't choose otherwise. Even applications, libraries and vid drivers are updated, that's even better than OSX(thinking of apps).

I'd go for AH on a mac too. And the mac world makes the "consistent" windows world look like complete chaos. OSX has to be the easiest platform to support.

But then again windows wins by default because everyone's got it, and that's that.

The mechanics are easy to understand, but it's hard not to dream.

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« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2007, 02:37:39 AM »
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Unfortunately, Linux support would be worse.  As much as I like Linux, it is not something I would ever want to support for a game.


Ohhh Skuzzy, Skuzzy...

It is not "so hard" as you think. You forget one simple thing - Linux community know to support each other very well, report on bugs and problems.

I just look in TW (absolutly outdated binary that was build with absolutly legacy libraries - they just have no idea how linux works) - and still people manage to run it and help each other with tips.

Once you release the game for Linux platform you'll find LOTS of supporters for free (this I can tell you from experiense). If linux community would allways relay on official support - no one would ever run linux.

Targetware, Skype support from community is a way better then any kind of officiall support.

Just give us the linux binary and I back to AHII :cry
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« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2007, 07:09:35 AM »
For the new user to install and use LINUX, they'd have to install a 2 DvD release and then still leap into a bunch of problems. You end up with more crap loaded on your system than Windows does. Even then, the first time you go to install something you get a list of 10 other things you have to install to get it running.

The LINUX community prides itself on help, but it also prides itself on superiority and you have to deal with that most times you look for help. And... if the help involves: just go in and re-compile your kernel then you get laughed at for the simple reply of "how do I do that?" where someone finally posts a link to a how-to website that was written for someone other than new LINUX users.

So... skuzzy would have to start with a list of 20 different things that would need to be checked, installed, recompiled, updated and modified just to get the user to the needed configuration for running pretty much anything.

I ran LINUX for about 8 years. I gave it up when I got disgusted with all the hoops I'd have to jump through when I did anything with it and I got disgusted with the community. I do like my "In a world without gates, who needs fences?" shirt, but sometimes a fence in front of a cliff is a good thing.