Author Topic: State Of The Union Address (Read 3469 times)

midnight Target · « **Reply #135 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:23:47 PM »

Take mine with ya.. we'll do just fine.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #136 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:25:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Gunthr
i'd love to see it. but none of us ever will. if a libertarian with an upper case "L" were elected, that is, a Libertarian Party member, it would mean that there are many libertarian thinkers in the country.

i concede that in that scenario, a Libertarian Party President of the country would have enough support to actually dismantle parts of government and legislation that are against the libertarian view of the world. But he/she would never become elected without that support in today's reality without abandoning almost all - if not all - of his libertarian principles.

I'm happy with electing leaders that have libertarian (small "l") beliefs who are determined to try and move us in that direction. I guess it just rankles me that somebody running for President in the Libertarian Party seems to be very dishonest to me, considering that if he were actually elected he would not survive without comprimising his beliefs. its just a peeve of mine.

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actually I think this election will be the best opportunity a 3rd party could have.

Just look at the field of choices we are going to have from the two big parties.
e have whomever on the right. Giuliani probably stands the best chance.

And on the left we are going to have either a black man with an Arab sounding name. Or the woman named Hillary

Now I not trying ot sound racist.
But I ask you. is the country really ready or going to be willing to vote for a Black man with an Arab sounding name??

somewhow I dont think so.
Not enough to actually win anyway

Safe to say anyone But Giuliani stands about as much of a chance at winning as a twinkie lasting 5 minutes at a fat farm.
the country as a whole just isn't going to want to hear what any republican has to say because of Bush.

Dems are screwing this one up big time. All they have to do is run a white male and they win. Its the next best thing to automatic.
but nooo. they have to make it hard on themselves.

So what we have is one distasteful choice after another.
and a country that the polls show isn't real confident a Democratic majority will do any better.

All a 3rd party needs to do is come out with a fresh message and a new face and they would have a pretty decent chance at actually winning

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #137 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:33:17 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Fine. What would you say if I went out and removed every single CEO and high paid officer in every company? And by remove, I mean that me and them are going on a vacation to an island in the South Pacific with scantily clad women and fruity drinks.

We'll come back when WE want to.

What do you think would happen to industry?

If replaced by people who actually worke their way up as opposed to having a degree?

Those companies/industries would do just fine. If not better cause alot of the petty BS would be gone

Seems to me industries have done just fine in the past when run by self made people.
No reason to think it couldnt happen again.

You seem to be suffering from the same delusion alot of exacs do.
they think they are irreplacable.

heh
EVERYONE is replacable

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #138 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:34:33 PM »

The funny part here is that you are assuming that every successful person isn't self made. But I'll laugh at you when it all falls apart when the CEO's finally decide to go on strike.

john9001 · « **Reply #139 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:42:52 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Fine. What would you say if I went out and removed every single CEO and high paid officer in every company? And by remove, I mean that me and them are going on a vacation to an island in the South Pacific with scantily clad women and fruity drinks.

We'll come back when WE want to.

What do you think would happen to industry?

after a couple of months somebody will say "hey, whatever happened to whats his name?"

Toad · « **Reply #140 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:50:31 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184

What do you think would happen to industry?

Probably a huge increase in productivity as the troops in the trenches finally get a say in how they do the job.

Particularly if the troops received the reward for the increased productivity instead of the island-hopping, umbrella drink snarfing CEO's who usually contribute nothing to productivity.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #141 on:** January 24, 2007, 06:51:43 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
The funny part here is that you are assuming that every successful person isn't self made. But I'll laugh at you when it all falls apart when the CEO's finally decide to go on strike.

I never said any such thing.
And to assume as such would be ridiculous.
By self made though I mean worked their way up from the bottom of the company. actually doing the grunt work before moving up the ladder.

I wouldn't say they aren't out there because I am sure they are.
In fact I know they are. I once worked for one.
most competent exec (in his case VP) I ever met
I respected the hell out of him.
Most people did. but by the same token he respected us as well because he'd been there.
While as I said I am sure there are some still out there. Its
something pretty rare these days

LOL And yanno what would happen if they all went on strike?

they would simply be replaced by someone else.

Ok you disagree with my proposed policies.
What would you do?

Now remember. You cant just think of the good of any 1 or group of companies. But the good of the country as a whole.
Long term.

You cant keep having ever increasing disparities between the haves and have nots. If history has taught us one thing. Its that eventually something has to give. And usually it isnt pretty

rpm · « **Reply #142 on:** January 24, 2007, 07:16:44 PM »

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Originally posted by RightF00T
Did anyone count how many times Pelosi blinked? Good god, she looked angry.

HUH???

She did not look angry at all to me. I do wish they would stop handing out copies of the speech to the members, it makes them all look like they are napping while they read along.

As a matter of fact, Condi was the one with the "I want to kill something" look on her face. I did'nt see her smile once.

Thrawn · « **Reply #143 on:** January 24, 2007, 07:34:28 PM »

Totally unscientific, but I've noticed here and on AGW that more and more people are coming out for the Libertarians. I never here the same for the Republicans or Democrats.

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #144 on:** January 24, 2007, 07:40:51 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm
HUH???
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As a matter of fact, Condi was the one with the "I want to kill something" look on her face. I did'nt see her smile once.

I was thinking the exact same thing myself.

Actually I was thinking she looked like an angry Gorilla were my exact thoughts

DREDIOCK · « **Reply #145 on:** January 24, 2007, 07:42:32 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
Totally unscientific, but I've noticed here and on AGW that more and more people are coming out for the Libertarians. I never here the same for the Republicans or Democrats.

Been noticing the very same thing myself

lazs2 · « **Reply #146 on:** January 25, 2007, 08:51:31 AM »

libertarians have their own problems but yeah...

The real hope for the country is that libertarian principals will appeal to the young people more than a better minimum wage that gets em a little closer to the poverty line.

That young people will say "hell no" to the next round of democrat nanny crap...

I know the democrats won't let us down.. they will do their part... they will ban more and more things that the young and strong like to do... protect them from themselves... an unatural state...

It will be up to the kids to say "enough is enough old ladies"

lazs

Skuzzy · « **Reply #147 on:** January 25, 2007, 09:14:27 AM »

I dunno Laz. I cannot consider our neighborhood any kind of microcosm, but about half the kids that gradu....,,uh,...finished high school six years ago are still living at home.

And when you talk to them, it becomes clear they are looking for a free ride, and do not or cannot shoulder any responsibility for themselves. Everything that is wrong is due to someone else, and nothing else matters.

Really quite bizarre. Absolutely no desire to be on thier own. I think this lot would vote for anyone who would be willing to give them a handout. They are more concerned with the inheritance taxes and that thier Mom makes sure to do thier laundry, than anything as world reaching as getting a job.

rpm · « **Reply #148 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:39:29 PM »

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Originally posted by RightF00T
Did anyone count how many times Pelosi blinked?

Did you catch last night's Daily Show? The count was 41 to 1 Pelosi over Chaney.

I'm betting she was wearing contacts and all the lights were drying them out.

Chairboy · « **Reply #149 on:** January 25, 2007, 12:45:31 PM »

I thought Ms. Rice was going to lunge onto the podium and attack the speaker of the house. Either that, or her 'intent listening' and 'burning hatred + longing to kill' expressions are a bit too close.