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Offline Sixpence

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« Reply #105 on: January 24, 2007, 12:40:29 PM »
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Supply and demand.  If the companies didn't demand good quality CEO's so much then they won't be paid so highly.


Supply and demand comes back to bite you in the ass.


So there is a demand to reward a ceo who loses millions?
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« Reply #106 on: January 24, 2007, 12:52:59 PM »
A Libertarian response:
http://duggmirror.com/political_opinion/The_State_of_the_Union_A_Libertarian_Response/

This guy looks interesting, I'll be watching him.

EDIT: Replaced link with mirror
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« Reply #107 on: January 24, 2007, 01:01:41 PM »
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So there is a demand to reward a ceo who loses millions?


No, there is a supply of board members who are CEO's themselves and realize  that  a vote for high pay for one will raise all CEO boats.

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« Reply #108 on: January 24, 2007, 01:04:59 PM »
I thought it was a pretty good speech and I guaranteed my wife he would not say the word nuclear throughout.

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« Reply #109 on: January 24, 2007, 01:06:58 PM »
I don't know about this guy Chair.   Real libertarians do not seek political power, do they?  I clicked on the link to see his stance on guns and it seems the site's account has been suspended  ???
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« Reply #110 on: January 24, 2007, 01:13:43 PM »
Ha!  His site got taken down by the digg effect.  I'll grab a mirror.  It's getting hammered, he exceeded his bandwidth.

Here it is:
http://duggmirror.com/political_opinion/The_State_of_the_Union_A_Libertarian_Response/

I have no idea what the 'political power' statement you made means, though, so can't help with that.

If he's a legit Libertarian, then his stance on guns is the same as the rest of us.  The more the merrier, and the only gun control needed is a good eye and a steady hand.
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« Reply #111 on: January 24, 2007, 02:03:43 PM »
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The baby didn't make that choice.


Never said it did.  Now the mom is responsible for the welfare of said baby.
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« Reply #112 on: January 24, 2007, 02:28:49 PM »
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Never said it did.  Now the mom is responsible for the welfare of said baby.


No, the mom is responsible for attempting to provide for the baby. The baby cannot be allowed to starve due to her inadequacies. Would you let it die to teach the mom a lesson?

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« Reply #113 on: January 24, 2007, 02:29:21 PM »
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Ha!  His site got taken down by the digg effect.  I'll grab a mirror.  It's getting hammered, he exceeded his bandwidth.

Here it is:
http://duggmirror.com/political_opinion/The_State_of_the_Union_A_Libertarian_Response/

I have no idea what the 'political power' statement you made means, though, so can't help with that.

If he's a legit Libertarian, then his stance on guns is the same as the rest of us.  The more the merrier, and the only gun control needed is a good eye and a steady hand.


iirc, he's a contributor to Heads Magazine. Heads is a slightly more refined version of High Times.

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« Reply #114 on: January 24, 2007, 02:33:45 PM »
mt... unfortunately... if you continue to send the message that having a baby out of wedlock will get you an apartment and a credit card and no stigma will be attached...

You will attract more and more people to become unwed mothers.   You may have to let 100 suffer so as to not breed 1000 more.   which is the real mercy?

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« Reply #115 on: January 24, 2007, 02:37:54 PM »
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I have no idea what the 'political power' statement you made means, though, so can't help with that. - Chair
 

thx for linky.  i should have phrased it that i thought real libertarians would not seek to obtain or wield political power on the national level because the position would necessarily run counter to the libertarian philosophy.  it would be practically impossible to make decisions that are in line with a real libertarian world view as the President of the United States, don't you think?
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« Reply #116 on: January 24, 2007, 02:44:31 PM »
Gunthr, I'd disagree.  I think a Libertarian president would face some severe hurdles dealing with and disassembling the entitlements based system both the Republican and Democrats support, but I don't see how it would be impossible.

Not by far.
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« Reply #117 on: January 24, 2007, 02:54:44 PM »
And this is why I don't consider myself a libertarian.

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« Reply #118 on: January 24, 2007, 02:55:31 PM »
Vote third party? How can you forget what happened in '92? With the vote so evenly split between republicans and democrats we're locked into a two party system.

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« Reply #119 on: January 24, 2007, 02:56:43 PM »
Lasersailor, could you elaborate?
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