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Offline Mr No Name

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« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2007, 09:22:41 PM »
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sounds to me like we won't be.

at least i hope that is what he meant.



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« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2007, 09:24:31 PM »
I spoke too soon.
To a half bad responce either
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« Reply #47 on: January 23, 2007, 09:30:21 PM »
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When I heard the democratic response talk about corporate profits, then says 'fairly shared', that sounds an awful lot like socialism.


In a way I can see the point. The disparity in large corperations has reached a point of absurdity.

Easy solution. Dont just raise the minimum wage.
double it and increase corperate taxes.
and maybe install some sort of outsourcing tax.
Whereas you are taxed at a higher rate if you outsource jobs overseas

I have no problems raising taxes on corperations. Only on individuals
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« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2007, 09:40:56 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Easy solution. Dont just raise the minimum wage.
double it and increase corperate taxes.
and maybe install some sort of outsourcing tax.
Whereas you are taxed at a higher rate if you outsource jobs overseas

I have no problems raising taxes on corperations. Only on individuals
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« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2007, 09:41:42 PM »
Who do you think will ACTUALLY pay the taxes you impose on corporations?
Who do you think will feed, clothe, and house all the people you put out of a job by raising the minimum wage?
How many more ILLEGAL aliens do you think will become gainfully (albeit illegally) employed here when they are used as replacements for those people who lose their jobs because companies cannot afford to pay more than the current minimum wage?
Some people need to THINK, and RESEARCH, before they toss out their "brilliant" ideas.
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« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2007, 09:43:55 PM »
Oh noes, t3h moms & pops will have to open storez again
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« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2007, 09:44:06 PM »
Corporations dont pay taxes, they never have, truly. They pass it on to you and I when we buy their product, which is what will happen to gas prices when their tax incentives are removed. If there were less lawyers trying to run our country and more business/economy majors, we'll be better off
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« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2007, 09:44:20 PM »
We could just nationalize every company whose CEO makes more than 20 times his lowest paid worker's salary.

That'd fix everything, right?
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« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2007, 09:45:15 PM »
Corporations->Higher taxes->higher prices->consumer pays more.

Yup...makes sense to me.
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« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2007, 09:48:26 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
In a way I can see the point. The disparity in large corperations has reached a point of absurdity.

Easy solution. Dont just raise the minimum wage.
double it and increase corperate taxes.
and maybe install some sort of outsourcing tax.
Whereas you are taxed at a higher rate if you outsource jobs overseas

I have no problems raising taxes on corperations. Only on individuals


Great solution!

The corporations will go right out and fire half their minimum wage employees, if not more.  Then they'll go ahead and increase the cost of products to cover the costs of the new corporate taxes.  Ontop of that, they'll increase prices even more to cover the raised costs of the outsourced jobs.  The jobs they outsourced to keep prices for US low in the first place.

To sum up, about half of the minimum wage population will be out of a job and to just throw salt on their wounds, everything will cost twice as much.  

Ontop of that (as if it couldn't get any worse), all salaries will decrease.  Due to Supply and Demand and there being a sudden influx of supply, the amount of money an employer would have to pay to retain an employee just drops sharply.


Good job dred, YOU'VE JUST CRIPPLED THE NATION WITH YOUR SOCIALIST PROGRAMS.
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« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2007, 09:49:19 PM »
Nah, you guys don't understand.

You can raise a corporation's taxes as much as you want and they'll cheerfully pay it without changing anything else.

They love paying taxes.
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« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2007, 09:55:02 PM »
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« Reply #57 on: January 23, 2007, 10:00:55 PM »
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Oh noes, t3h moms & pops will have to open storez again


Do a little research and a little thinking. It's the "mom and pop" operations you'll KILL with a minimum wage increase.

Oh yeah, and let's force all of the small businesses to lay off all of those kids going to school and working a minimum wage job because they can't afford to pay them $7-$8 an hour. Real freaking smart.

And the people screaming about the low minimum wage will be the ones screaming TWICE as loud about higher prices and higher unemployment.

Just like the people screaming that corporations should pay more taxes will be the ones screaming TWICE as loud when the cost of their purchases go up.
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« Reply #58 on: January 23, 2007, 10:06:43 PM »
Give small businesses tax breaks.
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« Reply #59 on: January 23, 2007, 10:08:52 PM »
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Give small businesses tax breaks.


I'll second that motion.  :aok

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