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Offline Toad

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« Reply #60 on: January 23, 2007, 10:09:07 PM »
Pump the minimum wage and don't do anything to stop illegal immigration and see what happens.
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« Reply #61 on: January 23, 2007, 10:13:50 PM »
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Pump the minimum wage and don't do anything to stop illegal immigration and see what happens.


EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only they're going to do something MUCH worse than that. They're going to increase the minimum wage by near 50%, and then they're going to change the laws to ENCOURAGE illegal immigration by offering amnesty AND creating a guest worker program. Pure genius.
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« Reply #62 on: January 23, 2007, 10:18:17 PM »
Yeah, somewhere it's fiesta time. ;)
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« Reply #63 on: January 23, 2007, 10:21:53 PM »
Ready for the revolution?
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« Reply #64 on: January 23, 2007, 10:23:28 PM »
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Give small businesses tax breaks.


Great idea. And exactly how much tax break do you propose we give? Is it going to be enough to cover the near 50% wage hike we're "giving" their employees? AND the increase in taxes they have to pay on the increased wages we give them the priviledge to pay? It better be REAL freaking big to cover the increased cost for the average family owned and operated eatery, landscaping company, or other small business that employs mostly inexperienced and unskilled students as the largest part of their labor force.

What you don't grasp here is that the Democrats aren't going to give those people a tax break. Or have you missed the part where they say people making $50K-$60K and up don't pay their fair share?

Increase taxes, increase the minimum wage, after all, there are wealthy people out there who can afford to pay more. Pure genius. A wise lady once said, "the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to spend".
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« Reply #65 on: January 23, 2007, 10:25:29 PM »
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Ready for the revolution?


No, I don't have enough reloading supplies, and I haven't fleshed out my collection of firearms and reloading goodies. I think I'll get started on that tomorrow.
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« Reply #66 on: January 23, 2007, 10:27:17 PM »
I think if and when it comes, it will be short. You won't need much ammo because I think the rank and file of the "government" forces are as sick to death of this government as anyone else.

:)

And one thing's certain: the politicians themselves don't have the sand to fight.

It'd be a walkover.
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« Reply #67 on: January 23, 2007, 10:31:10 PM »
It'd be a walkover?  Do you guys know how much you've fought me over points of simple socialism?  And that's from both sides of the aisle.


While not up to civil war standards, it won't be a streak free revolution.
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« Reply #68 on: January 23, 2007, 10:35:19 PM »
My opinion... the one to which I am entitled, your grace... is that the American military will not support a government that has driven the populace to open revolution.

I think that fact would make the revolution much easier to accomplish.

You are entitled to your opinion as well, your worship.
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« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2007, 10:38:04 PM »
Toad, there are people so invested in the system, that it's very unlikely they'll roll over, politicians included.
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« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2007, 11:25:02 PM »
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Great idea. And exactly how much tax break do you propose we give? Is it going to be enough to cover the near 50% wage hike we're "giving" their employees? AND the increase in taxes they have to pay on the increased wages we give them the priviledge to pay? It better be REAL freaking big to cover the increased cost for the average family owned and operated eatery, landscaping company, or other small business that employs mostly inexperienced and unskilled students as the largest part of their labor force.

What you don't grasp here is that the Democrats aren't going to give those people a tax break. Or have you missed the part where they say people making $50K-$60K and up don't pay their fair share?

Increase taxes, increase the minimum wage, after all, there are wealthy people out there who can afford to pay more. Pure genius. A wise lady once said, "the problem with socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money to spend".

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« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2007, 11:26:03 PM »
I was really impressed with one thing he mentioned....and none of you guys touched on it.

Eliminating earmarks.
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« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2007, 11:34:39 PM »
I cant feel any sympathy for a company when the CEO's make tens of millions of dollars..i jus cant.....I got a friend that jus had a kid and can't get food stamps because they say she makes too much. She works a part time job at a grocery store makin less than $200 a week. After rent, diapers, and baby sitter she is broke, yet that is too much for her to have food for herself and her child.  I just don't have any sympathy for millionaires, while a wonderful girl and beatiful baby cant even get food...
a second job isn't an option, because then her baby-sittin cost would double, not to mention that her kid would grow up being raised by day-cares....there is something fundamentally wrong with this picture and those that think all is well.
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« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2007, 11:40:58 PM »
I take it she chose to have a baby out of wedlock?  If she did, she's living with the consequences of that choice.  Not to worry though, the Democrats are in power and they will take care of her!
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« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2007, 11:47:24 PM »
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I was really impressed with one thing he mentioned....and none of you guys touched on it.

Eliminating earmarks.
Overall it was a very good speech. Iraq was the only weak spot. The only problem with his Iraq solution is it's too little, too late. It does not bring the force up to the minimum required in the Army manual to occupy an urban area.
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