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« on: February 26, 2007, 05:10:42 PM »
Gore seems to have an energy appetite for destruction of the human race

http://drudgereport.com/flash.htm

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« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2007, 05:26:53 PM »
wait just a minute now... Gore said this was not a political issue, but a MORAL issue.   hmmm. oh, geez, that means...  heck, i don't want to even say it.... G g g g Gore is... immoral?  

maybe hypocritical might be a better word.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2007, 06:00:55 PM »
Come on guys, asking gore to live by what he preaches is like asking any politician to do it.


He is just a typical politician, and he found his little niche, you know, as the high priest of the church of environmental scare mongering.

It won't mater a bit to those who worship..  er I mean believe his BS, he is their god and can do no wrong.


To the rest of us, he should be what he is, just another scumbag politico.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2007, 06:49:09 PM »
After watching part of the Academy Awards last night, I would not be at all suprised to hear that Al Gore becomes the alien master leader of scientology in the next year or two.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2007, 06:54:58 PM »
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After watching part of the Academy Awards last night, I would not be at all suprised to hear that Al Gore becomes the alien master leader of scientology in the next year or two.


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« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2007, 07:39:39 PM »
hahaha, lets all point fingers at Gore.  Really guys, I have no love lost for Gore, could care one way or the other.  I may also not agree with his "documentary" but think about it just abit and stop letting them spoon feed ya.

You dont take something thats out of the norm and try to compare it to an average

I have a about 2000 sq ft house,  4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, all electric house, no gas.  my electric bill runs about 1400 to 1700 kwh a month depending on the weather and how sucessful I am at chasing the kids around the house and shutting stuff off.  4 tvs, 5 pcs assorted electronics.
so in a year I probably average about 18,000 kwh.   now their report only says a 20 room house, usually when they describe a house they say number of bedrooms, so I'll go with that.  If we use my numbers thats 375 kwh a month per bedroom.   Using that a 20 bedroom house would average 7,500 kwh.  But this is Al Gore so that house probably has alot of extra security stuff than most of us have.  Plus you gotta figure secret service guys.

Also where do they get the figure The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy.  What year?  What do they consider an average household?  

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/recs/recs2001/enduse2001/enduse2001.html

that report is from 2001.  Could he use less electricity?  probably.

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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2007, 07:47:02 PM »
how can big AL afford a house like that, he doesn't even have a job?


BTW, his Oscar was for best science fiction movie.

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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2007, 08:02:53 PM »
This is a surprise, how?
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2007, 09:29:02 PM »
The Internet

The Environment.

The Beard.  

Nothing is too big for A. Gore to master.

Except perhaps:

The Election.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2007, 10:03:48 PM »
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Also where do they get the figure The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy.  What year?  What do they consider an average household?  
take this for a piece of meat to mentally chew on....

In the community I live there are many condos, in fact I grew up in one, and group has over 400 in that one little condo "community"

compare that to 400 houses, what takes up more space? add in the mass localization of urban complexes, and you have a WHOLE bunch of people in a small area... hence condo's and apartments.

you take NYC alone which has a population bigger than some states in itself, add in all those small stacked APT's, and condos, you can get low "average household" numbers for many things.


ALL and I mean [SIZE=10]ALL[/SIZE] numbers "given" for stats regarding anything with the environment can be skewed because of reasons like I stated above.


"statistics" PHHPT, worthless unless you survey EVERYONE on the planet individually, otherwise worthless.

let's say for example they try and say "every person on the planet consumes XXX fossil fuels per year" are they REALLY taking into account the 3rd world population of China (which mind you their population living in "poverty" and "3rd" world status outnumber ALL of the USA population by far).

for every fire breathing eco-terrorist that drives an SUV there are at least 3 possibly up to 20 people on the planet who don't even own a car, or know how to drive one.

if you SERIOUSLY want to talk about humanity's impact on the global environment and infrastructure, you MUST include the whole friggin planet, otherwise you are NOT talking about "humanity" or you are not talking about the "planet" just a part, or more correctly a smidgen of the whole picture.


al fuggin gore is one of the most useless, band wagon jumping, moronic, clueless, pandering, exaggerating, flat out lying, socially inept, mentally retarded, sign waving, spokesperson pretending persons ever to have invented the internet.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2007, 10:26:51 PM »
So what you are saying is that since the US is already condemned for using a disproportionate amount of the earths resources and since gore uses 20 times the average American's usage of resources. That means that based on the entire freaking planet he is even worse compared to the average energy use of an Aborigine in the Amazonian jungle!

Inconvenient hypocrisy indeed.
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2007, 11:52:40 PM »
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hahaha, lets all point fingers at Gore.  Really guys, I have no love lost for Gore, could care one way or the other.  I may also not agree with his "documentary" but think about it just abit and stop letting them spoon feed ya.

You dont take something thats out of the norm and try to compare it to an average

I have a about 2000 sq ft house,  4 bedrooms, 3 full baths, all electric house, no gas.  my electric bill runs about 1400 to 1700 kwh a month depending on the weather and how sucessful I am at chasing the kids around the house and shutting stuff off.  4 tvs, 5 pcs assorted electronics.
so in a year I probably average about 18,000 kwh.   now their report only says a 20 room house, usually when they describe a house they say number of bedrooms, so I'll go with that.  If we use my numbers thats 375 kwh a month per bedroom.   Using that a 20 bedroom house would average 7,500 kwh.  But this is Al Gore so that house probably has alot of extra security stuff than most of us have.  Plus you gotta figure secret service guys.

Also where do they get the figure The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy.  What year?  What do they consider an average household?  

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/recs/recs2001/enduse2001/enduse2001.html

that report is from 2001.  Could he use less electricity?  probably.


And meanwhile the average household ins France consume 4000kWh per year.

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« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2007, 12:55:42 AM »
ya but 5 billion calories of wine evens things out

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« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2007, 01:20:52 AM »
A yes... but per capita, the USA uses 12,500 KWhr,  France uses 7,118, but Canada uses 15,738, and Iceland uses 28,789!

So who's the real culprit here....

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If we all could emulate Burkina Faso, with only 25.125, KWhr, think how much better the world would be....
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« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2007, 01:36:04 AM »
Those numbers are not fair for the people who live in the colder regions.  I do not need heating as badly as the people up north and I have sweated it out many times in the summer when I did not have enough money to pay for A/C.
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