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Offline aerosaber

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« on: February 27, 2007, 07:55:57 PM »
Sure would like to see the B-25.

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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2007, 08:02:55 PM »
Or a B29?
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2007, 09:24:09 PM »
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Or a B29?


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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2007, 09:28:53 PM »
Priorities, priorities.




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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2007, 10:25:20 PM »
A-26! W00t!
Who are you to wave your finger?

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2007, 10:46:42 PM »
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A-26! W00t!


I'll second and so-0n that one..! :aok :aok :aok
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2007, 08:55:01 AM »
B-25 would make for some nice "Dolittle" scenarios in the SEA arena.
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 02:54:15 PM »
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B-25 would make for some nice "Dolittle" scenarios in the SEA arena.


You mean create a "modified" B-25 entry to the plane set; missing some weapons to save weight, loaded with minimal ordnance, taking off from a CV, into a brisk headwind at 0 altitude (and dependent on the the CV moving into the wind), and watching 1/2 the participants still put the bird into the drink on failed launch attempts?  

Modeling a B-25 is one thing: modifying that model to recreate Doolittle's raid is something else.

B-25; little more ord than B-26, but a little slower than a B-26.  

Rather have something to spend all my buff perkies on other than the Arado.

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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2007, 04:42:23 PM »
im shure its not hard to make ordance loadout an option for the CV, (meaning if it carryed 4000lbs on land then only alow a 2000lbs loadout on the CV) whatever the loadout was, as for the guns just map it so you get no ammo if you take it from the CV)

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2007, 04:52:43 PM »
I think you're coming at the wrong angle. If we can takeoff in Lancasters from carriers, we wouldn't have any issues taking a B-25 off a carrier. I'm not saying, "Please modify the plane for sea standards as of the Dolittle raids." I'm simply saying, the B-25 would be a nice addidtion for the SEA arena if they wanted to make some sort of a Dollitle raid.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2007, 10:45:49 PM »
i would say yes to the b25, but we alredy have 4 heavy/med (or is A-20G light?) and 2 light/dive bombers from the US (6 total for u knuckle heads that didnt learns their math) id rather see the Halifax Mk. 3 or 7 (mid/late war varrients that only had minor flaws compared to the Mk. 1,2 or 5)
« Last Edit: February 28, 2007, 10:49:39 PM by Nemeth »

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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2007, 11:44:40 PM »
Well, practical problem with Doolittle Raid in SEA then.

Sixteen B-25's carried 4 500# bombs each.  No escort.  No tail guns.  Japanese did not know they were coming.  Total surprise.

SEA event.  Both sides have a good idea what's happening.  B-25's on the deck w/o escort, w/o tail guns, would be dead meat against Japanese defenders.

I agree with Nemeth too; I argue for the A-26 because it's a perkable ride (that's not the B-29);  otherwise, the plane sets of other countries need additions before U.S. plane sets gets another bomber.  Soviets, Germans, Japanese, and English could all use additional bombers for SEA before American plane set.
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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 11:28:19 AM »
You're still mis-understanding me. I never said "Take the guns out of the bombers so it's realistic for the SEA arena". I said a B-25 could make an interesting scenario for the SEA arena, such as the Dolittle raids.

Nothing in AH is realistic, only the pilots of WWII would know if it is or not. So who says you have to make it as close to the actual event as possible to have fun? This simulator is here so we can have fun, if it means twisting history a little and calling it the mission name of one that is in history, then so be it.
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2007, 12:16:39 PM »
i like his point (twisted but good) ferthermore i think every aircraft should be on the list of things we need (but some have priority over others) the B29 even if i want it, should be close to last. the B25 should be close to us getting.

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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2007, 01:42:47 PM »
The Doolittle Raid was ONE operation utilizing the B-25.  There were thousands.  


IMHO, the B-25 would be a welcome addition to the game, not only due to its flexibility as an attacker/bomber but also because in a lot of people's minds, it is an iconic symbol of the era.  I flew B-25's almost exclusively in AW and really miss it here.