Author Topic: So.... what would you like to see incorporated into scoring/ranking and stats.  (Read 1888 times)

Offline TalonX

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« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2007, 05:51:33 PM »
Too much concern for scores.

If you fly fighters only, then only worry about your fighter score, if you feel compelled to consider score at all.

I'd love to see a 5 minute penalty for being shot down.  Have to sit in the tower :)

I think last month I'd have to sit out about 2000 minutes :)

Of course, many would log off.  But imagine, if you had one life as in the war, how much the game would change.  We have KOTH - it provides quite an interesting strategy, quite different from the game.

If you've been shot down more than a couple times, score is really meaningless.  You'd be dead.  
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« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2007, 01:38:05 AM »
Fighter
Bomber
Attack
PT
GV

All of these categories have sub-categories and each sub-category must be optimised to score well within the parent category. Parent categories make up the Overall Score. Individual skill within a category helps to enhance overall score. Overall score does not reflect individual skill within a category.

Skill is understanding and optimising the above to one's advantage.

Just thoughts...
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Offline detch01

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Based on the KISS principal.
I'd like to see stats and rank split apart: base rank on kills & damage per death, per hour and per sortie only, and get rid of the combined rank thing. Keep the other stats but don't include them in the ranking - they are useful in tracking personal progress in the game but otherwise are fluff and open the door for gaming the scoring system and that makes the system as it is now virtually useless in determining who is and who isn't any good at the game.


my $0.02


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Having thought further I think perks earned per death in each category would be sufficient for pointage.

I still believe that categories should be

Fighter
Attack
Bomber
GV/Boat/Gunner


Stats such as kills,deaths,landings,ditches,bails are still interesting. (plus some ratios derived from them)

Last 20 victims & last 20 victors may be entertaining
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Originally posted by Tilt
Having thought further I think perks earned per death in each category would be sufficient for pointage.

I still believe that categories should be

Fighter
Attack
Bomber
GV/Boat/Gunner


Stats such as kills,deaths,landings,ditches,bails are still interesting. (plus some ratios derived from them)

Last 20 victims & last 20 victors may be entertaining


Even better.:aok
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Offline hubsonfire

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Being able to see the top 10 or 20 players in any given subcategory might be enlightening, as well as being able to see your most common victims and victors. It would certainly make witchhunts a lot easier. :)
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I'd like to see proxy kills go away, and a catagory for collisions, ones that are your fault and ones that are the other flyers fault,
 score really means very little, but everyone seems to track it,so i guess it does mean something.
 and i like the idea of a time penalty for getting killed, maybe  if you had to fly 3 sorties in a different ride b4 you could go back to the one you got killed in.
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i wish they would include theENY into this.  Like you get something for killing low ENY planes with a high ENY plane.

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I'd like to see proxy kills go away, and a catagory for collisions, ones that are your fault and ones that are the other flyers fault,
Exactly how are you going to determine who's "fault" it is?
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i wish they would include theENY into this.  Like you get something for killing low ENY planes with a high ENY plane.


Points, not to be confused with perks, are determined this way already, IINM.
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Leave it basically as is but add a couple of modifyers.

The more "good" guys you shoot down the better you are vs. the more "bad" guys you shoot down the worse you are.  Sort of like ENY applied to players based on ranks at that time.

Another modifyer might be an odds modifyer.  The heavier the odds against you the higher the score, the bigger the hoard you fly with the lower the score.

Personally, I'd probably lose on the players modifyer but gain on the odds modifyer.

Of course you can't apply this to toolshedders because the odds are always against them :lol
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Get rid of scores/rank completely and see what happens when poeple aren't worried about it any more.

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They'll do EXACTLY as they do now but even more so.  Pork auger, bomb an bail, HO from the get go, low lancs at 10 paces on any structure or CV and fly the fastest thing there is. So they can run like hell when the going looks anywhere near, you guest it, even.

ANY score system can be manipulated and I believe the one we have is designed on the principle of, forgive the word, "surviving" each sortie.

Answering the question put.  I could only think of adding novelties.  List of last 20 victims or extra points for shooting a guy down with lots of kills.  Perhaps an instant on screen message.  "Johnnycomelatly" just shot down "Vulchingcherrypickingtoerag" with 8 kills or what ever the kill count was.

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Exactly how are you going to determine who's "fault" it is?

 
I could be wrong here, but i do think when It says you have collided with so n so, or it says so n so collided with you, the system does know who collided.
 best to stay out of ho situations i guess.
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Originally posted by yanksfan
I could be wrong here, but i do think when It says you have collided with so n so, or it says so n so collided with you, the system does know who collided.
 best to stay out of ho situations i guess.
Please do a search on collisions.  I will not re-hash it all here as I do not want to hijack the thread.  Suffice it to say that the "collision model" is a no-fault system -- that is, the system does not assign blame -- you simply either collide or you don't.

Do a search, and if you have any questions, feel free to PM me or post in one of those threads so we don't pull this one off course.  :aok


Here is one of the more recent threads that may help - long read but I think it is all in here.

If nothing else, you will see why it will become a hijack if we get too deep into it.>
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Offline Nilsen

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Either remove the scores all together or atleast take EW and MW out of the rank/score thing.