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Offline Masherbrum

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« Reply #30 on: March 10, 2007, 07:35:31 PM »
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Just typical republican & democrat behavior, equally useless and hypocritical.  

Meanwhile the country is circling the drain.


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« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2007, 08:48:10 PM »
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I think one just did!


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« Reply #32 on: March 10, 2007, 09:01:26 PM »
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« Reply #33 on: March 10, 2007, 09:07:39 PM »
Heh, that's funny. 'Course in real life he's 6'3" and 275, but other than that, yeah, that's him.

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« Reply #34 on: March 10, 2007, 09:35:36 PM »
You know one striking difference between newt and clintoon? It didn't take the FBI and a forensics lab to get newt to finally tell the truth.
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« Reply #35 on: March 10, 2007, 09:43:19 PM »
doesnt excuse it though dude.

do you think that he is offering this truth willingly?  or is it possible that it's pretty much irrefutable and that is why he is offering it now?

i am no fan of what clinton did, not by any stretch...a lie is a lie is a lie... but newtboy was the leadership that took him on with this issue.  it can get as candy coated as you want it to be, but at the end of the day it was a referendum on the morality of our leadership and it's character beyond the scope of the immediate public eye.

it just doesnt make sense to try to justify his behavior or to pretend that any one party is infallible.  neither are.  

a lie is a lie is a lie.
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« Reply #36 on: March 10, 2007, 09:50:40 PM »
Please quote my post where I said it was justified, acceptable or that I excused it. I just pointed out one difference, that's all.
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« Reply #37 on: March 10, 2007, 10:19:05 PM »
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You know one striking difference between newt and clintoon? It didn't take the FBI and a forensics lab to get newt to finally tell the truth.


Actually Mav, they are both the same....both wanted to hide it while they were in office...one was succesful, one wasn't...

Newt "came clean" because he wants to run for office again.

And they are both strikingly similar in that they are men without integrity.

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« Reply #38 on: March 10, 2007, 10:23:55 PM »
A true mark of a dumbocrat (as opposed to an "honest" democrat) is insisting that Clinton's impeachment was over an extra-marital blowjob.  It was not.  It was about the leader of the United States lying under oath in court.

The fact that the lie was about a blowjob is merely embarassing yet oddly convenient to Clinton apologists who use it as to distract everyone from the actual crime he comitted.

If the country decides that Gingrich's political career is over because of his affair, that's fine.  But if you put him under oath and asked him about it, he would tell the truth.  If you want to say he doesn't deserve to be in office, that's fine.  What's good for one party is good for another.  But there is a clear distinction between people who will lie under oath to protect themselves, and those who will not.  Clinton lied under oath, Gingrich told the truth without even being sworn in.

I haven't seen any quotes where Gingrich said Clinton should leave office because of the blowjob...  Mostly he goes on about the lying under oath thing.  That might be opportunistic, but certainly not hypocritical.
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« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2007, 10:27:22 PM »
a lie is a lie is a lie.

courtroom lies are no worse than non courtroom lies.
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« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2007, 10:30:12 PM »
JB88,

I 100% disagree.  The United States is a nation built on laws, and our court system is the one true power that holds the US together as one nation.  A sitting president lying to his wife is immoral, lying to the press is irritating and could be grounds for a vote of no-confidence, but lying in court is intolerable.
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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2007, 10:31:14 PM »
they are both intolerable eagl.
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2007, 10:35:43 PM »
We'll have to disagree then JB.  The US legal system and many hundreds of years of legal precedent agrees with me though.  For proof, look at the penalties for breach of contract or contract fraud, and compare then to the penalties for purjury.  And look at how many Presidents have either blatantly or sneakily misled the public on any number of items (such as national security), and how many of them have attempted to lie in court.

You will find a huge difference between mere "public" or "private" statements, and statements made under oath in a court of law.  This is not just my opinion, this is all of history speaking.
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« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2007, 10:41:55 PM »
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Actually Mav, they are both the same....both wanted to hide it while they were in office...one was succesful, one wasn't...

Newt "came clean" because he wants to run for office again.

And they are both strikingly similar in that they are men without integrity.


...and the one who hid it, is a hypocrite.
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« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2007, 10:42:51 PM »
a lie is still a lie is still a lie....
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