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Offline Toad

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« Reply #45 on: April 08, 2007, 10:56:40 AM »
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If you've ever wondered why the people here who know REAL World War II pilots NEVER invite them here, this crap is EXACTLY why.


How true; I was going to send my father a link to some of this but I have now decided against doing that.

Too much bile for no good reason and I don't think he'd understand it.
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« Reply #46 on: April 08, 2007, 10:58:15 AM »
I've voted for the P39 since the start, but am I going to stamp my feet and whine like some on these forums? No...

Get over your over-blown feelings of self-worth, no one cares about your opinion, just let the voting process take place.

(Edit: this was not aimed at anyone... just asking some of the whiners to 'grow up')
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« Reply #47 on: April 08, 2007, 11:38:03 AM »
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In the end it is the existence of the 'specific individual' that makes the difference between the Brewster and the B-25, Toad.

 I wouldn't have gone so far with this crappy subject, if only some people haven't started using your father's honor as the reason to shut someone up. Like you said, everybody's got their reasons.

 Unfortunately, some people believe they've found a "holier-than-thou" reason than most others, and started using it to make people who don't want the B-25 (for down-to-earth reasons) look like a disloyal, unhonorable, selfish person who only wants his own fun, instead of honoring a hero.


Kweassa , I generally pay attention to what you have to say, but in this case you are so far off base I can't believe it's you saying it.

If a reason for wanting the 25 is to honor a player's father, then so be it.  That to me is far more motivation then wanting some uber ride for the latewar again.

To suggest that makes it 'holier-then thou' to have that motivation is just silly.  Funny, the reason I want the 39 too is that I know a P39 pilot who I have a great deal of respect for.  To get a chance to 'fly' that bird would be a great experience for me, as it might in some small way give me a feel for what he went into combat with.

Would escorting Toad's dad in an AH B25D strafer give me that same sort of feeling?  You bet.  Again, it's why I'm torn between the two.  The history is what makes me play the game, trying to imagine something I've spent my life trying to learn more about and understand.

So please get off your soap box and quit type-casting us for thinking this way.  If that makes me holier then thou, then you better get used to it, cause that's what drives me to play.

If you feel guilty because I said that was a reason I wanted the plane, then that's your problem.  Get over it.
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« Reply #48 on: April 08, 2007, 12:49:04 PM »
Firstly, I am very impressed by those folk whose knowledge and love of aircraft places them so firmly behind their hobby. From my point of view, its encouraging that there is so much enthusiasm for old planes that would be for the most part forgotten and left in some forgotten part of the Smithsonian.  Old manuals and forgotten statistics are being dusted off and treasured, scrutenized and debated because some people in the flight sim communities actually love aircraft history. Imagine what life would be like if nobody even cared what plane was next up.

Secondly, were my emotions not so totally burnt out, I might have joined in the debate, allowing my blood to boil and cheering on the honoured old relic like a star quarterback but, as I said. I dont think anything is lost regardless of what plane AH chooses for the next ride. The experience itself has merit to those flightsimmers who are entrenched in this hobby.

Thirdly, I voted for the B25. Actually, I was going to spoil my vote because of my apathy but I felt the B25 is so widely entrenched in the flight sim community it was about time that we were given a chance to compare a AH version to those already in existance.

Fourthly, it would be nice to see some of the contenders rendered into 3D before the world ends.

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« Reply #49 on: April 08, 2007, 01:14:36 PM »
The BBS is just an extension of the game.

Some of you need to lighten up.

If you are not having fun, you should question why you are here.

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« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2007, 01:47:56 PM »
I read a couple of post about someone's father being a WWII vet involving the B-25.  My father was a flight engineer on the B-25 and flew it on numerous occasions.  We went to an air show when I was younger and he actually found a B-25 that he had flown!  He had the serial numbers on all of the planes he had the privilege of serving in and matched one to this plane.  The current owner took him up that afternoon and let him take the controls.  50 years after risking his life in that plane he was able to take it for a joyride.  I think voting for the B-25 would be a great way to honor our vets.  I voted for the 25 and hope it makes it as I believe it will be a valuable assest to our gameplay experience.  I for one would use it frequently.  

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« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2007, 02:35:58 PM »
:)

I never thought that I was honoring my local vets by voting Brewster in the 1st round. I know tens of better and proper ways to honor them. Could anyone really feel proud telling some vet that you have honored him by voting for a certain plane in a certain game? :huh

I believe people here vote to get themselves a new plane to fly and/or to shoot down... nothing much more.


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« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2007, 02:58:46 PM »
I want to fly from a carrier like ben aflak!
THAT is the point.
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« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2007, 05:08:31 PM »
It would be great to honor the war vets by having their plane and skin in the game who can fly them in the virtual world. Its great Hitech gave subscribers the right to vote on a plane they like, I voted A-26 because it was my favorite from the AirWarrior days. If its rolling a B-25 or P-29 to honor the vets who we fly with or taking another out for a spin and parking it in the hanger to collect rust its what we voted for. :)
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« Reply #54 on: April 08, 2007, 07:58:52 PM »
This will be my one and only comment about putting planes to a vote. I hope HTC returns to surprising us with their choice of planes. Perhaps that was the intended lesson?

It's a sad and shameful thing that Toad is reluctant to let his father take a peek in here.

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« Reply #55 on: April 08, 2007, 08:00:55 PM »
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I hope HTC returns to surprising us with their choice of planes.  


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« Reply #56 on: April 08, 2007, 08:05:20 PM »
The motion is carried. I never expected such a display of pettiness and immaturity. I wouldn't be surprised if Pyro and the rest of the staff are regretting ever giving us the opportunity. I'd be surprised if they repeated the error in judgment. Then again, they may be laughing hysterically at the fools.
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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2007, 08:14:34 PM »
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The history is what makes me play the game

Well.  How silly.

You must be missing the message that these boards have been proclaiming for a week.  Performance is everything.  If the new plane isn't of the highest performance, judged by 1945 standards, then it's a loser, and you are implicitly a loser for wanting it.

Geez.  You have to really spell things out for people these days.

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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2007, 08:19:57 PM »
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Well.  How silly.

You must be missing the message that these boards have been proclaiming for a week.  Performance is everything.  If the new plane isn't of the highest performance, judged by 1945 standards, then it's a loser, and you are implicitly a loser for wanting it.

Geez.  You have to really spell things out for people these days.

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Yeah, well, some of us old bastards are a little dense. Perhaps someone could draw us a picture.
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« Reply #59 on: April 08, 2007, 08:25:38 PM »
well i certainly didn't expect so much interest in my post.
firstly my post wasn't a whine, i waited untill the last round before i posted it. it was basically an observation in what i believe a missed opetunity.and a experience in this game ( 6 years) to know whats gonna be hot and whats not..
secondly, flag wavers should stick to the O club or thread that invite flag waving..your flag may not be mine, i while i feel indebted to the guys who have fought in wars. this is a game and that sort of thing dosn't belong in this thread. both my grandfathers took part in WW2 and i would never think of using them as a political pawn in here..

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