Author Topic: Man made Global Warming (Read 2383 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #120 on:** April 14, 2007, 10:10:19 AM »

fstfwd.. I agree that cheap clean electricity should be a priority. I would love to see it... we are heading that way. It will happen no matter what we do. it is like $2 an hour internet... or .50 cent a minute long distance...

The demand will make an all you can eat electical grid... nukes and flat fees first... personal solar next when it gets about 80% efficeient and you can buy the kits at home depot...

This will all happen.

If my car got 90 mpg instead of 12 for one.. 23 for another and 12 for the other and 50 for my motorcycle... it would help...as you say... one billion of a billionth... not worth talking about.. get free electricity and I will build an electric hot rod to go to the store in for... fun.

If everyone quit taking jets for anything except emergencies.... it would have an effect on the horrible co2 levels you are talking about... and... it wouldn't bother me a bit.

But... co2...how do you know that it will reach these levels? you are counting on computer models that are admitedly flawed right? and... you don't know what will come in 60 years... we went from no aircraft to space flight in 60 years... and... plants grow faster and use more co2 as it rises... and...

If the sun goes into a less active cycle (highly likely) the major producer of co2 will lessen... we may even have not enough to keep crops going (as was predicted in the 70's by your scientists)

and angus... the world is being overfished... your fishing boat is wasteful... We could mandate that it be more efficient... that would probly mean that you would get laid off tho... but that would be fine with you right? My point is that I can take a look at your life and find dozens of things you do that are "harmful" to poor old mother earth that you could improve with just a little (or maybe even a lot) of suffering.

So I ask you... again... what would you have us all do?

fstfwd says that all we need is nuke plants... so far... I agree with you guys... for different reasons of course but... we found a thing we agree on.

What else you want?

lazs

bozon · « **Reply #121 on:** April 14, 2007, 03:02:16 PM »

On one of the billboard at my physics faculty there are correlation plots between CO2 levels, global temperatures and solar activity.

Since they are correlated and you assume that man caused global warming, the in-escapable conclusion is that human activity affect the magnetic activity on the sun!

How wonderful is that ?!:lol

mietla · « **Reply #122 on:** April 14, 2007, 08:26:01 PM »

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Angus, Cuval, the rest of you "the end is near, repent!" guys...

that kind of reminds me that when a black plague happened ALL scientist and those in power agreed that it was caused by human (human sin to be precise). They've also said "we need to do something about, can't just wait". The solution was just that, "something". They just rounded up Jews and other non-believers and wrong-believers and burned them in mass at the stake.

I'm sure that they believed that the are doing something, and when the plaque died out, I'm sure they were convinced that their doing something about it caused it.

Also, last time the politicians did "something" to solve the air pollution we got MTBE in our gasoline.

At least the black plague was a real phenomenon.

DiabloTX · « **Reply #123 on:** April 14, 2007, 11:02:17 PM »

It's currently 54f in Houston on April 14th.

WTF??????

Global warming my prettythang...

lazs2 · « **Reply #124 on:** April 15, 2007, 09:09:43 AM »

end of the world scenarios always play well with the masses. Man made ones play well with the left.

If it is man made then it proves that we should all go back to the renaissance and live like socialist hippies...

It plays well with scientists because they can be important again and.... get huge grants and be on good morning america.

It plays well with lefty politicians because they can use guilt to make themselves more powerful and get more money to jetset around in and build another 20,000 square foot house.

It doesn't play too well with those who like to live and let live and have seen it all before.

lazs

Jackal1 · « **Reply #125 on:** April 15, 2007, 10:24:29 AM »

Got to go check the tomato plants to make sure the "global warming" frost didn`t get them last night.

bozon · « **Reply #126 on:** April 15, 2007, 01:20:22 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
It plays well with scientists because they can be important again and.... get huge grants and be on good morning america.

I'd be careful saying "most", but a lot of scientists are actually against the claim of man made global warming. Some are opposed to it because they know a little about it and see that it is unfounded. A few others (from other schools of science) are opposed to this idea for the same reason that environmentalists support it - money! More money to fight the global warming ghost is less money for real science.

But then again, you don't hear about these guys. Will you invite some to "good morning america" to wave his hand and say "ahh... this is nothing"? Not really a rating magnet.

Bozon

Angus · « **Reply #127 on:** April 16, 2007, 05:06:41 AM »

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Got to go check the tomato plants to make sure the "global warming" frost didn`t get them last night.

Maybe you should grow the tomatoes in Cologne then. Mid April, 30 degs celcius (instead of a typical 15 yhis time of year) and forest fires due to dryness. In April