War on Terror means unwinnable, eternal war

[lasersailor184]

Originally posted by Dowding
Laser's views have been ultimately shown for what they are in this thread - empty enthusiasm.

I don't see the difference between stating that we would be right to nuke an entire Muslim country and stating the Nazis were right to liquidate entire villages due to the actions of partisans. What is the difference?

Winning.

[Viking]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Remember Iran is the country that produced the first suicide bomber who is now one of their national hero's (I forget his name at the moment)

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The VC used suicide bombers in Vietnam.

And then of course there is this guy:



Not a suicide-bomber per se, but more of a suicide-hand-grenadier. A US national hero too.


Lolz at the caption:

Originally posted by lasersailor184
Winning.

As proven by your opinions and the opinions of many other Americans and the actions of your government, the terrorists have won … won big.

[Shamus]

You will never win our version of the "war on terror" overseas, because as much as we like to posture and chest thump we are dealing with other sovereign countries.

We will not be allowed to stomp around wherever we want using any tactic we deem necessary to identify and apprehend all of our enemies, the citizens of those other nations will not allow what we now accept in the U.S.

As for dropping a nuke here, dropping one there to force our will is kind of like killing a guy by holding his head next your right ear while firing a gun thru your left, we as a country would be devastated economically by the rest of the world first and then probably militarily shortly after.

Now our internal fight is another matter, I still think we can defeat the terrorists here, I see more and more resistance to the "Patriot Act fanboys", all is not lost.

shamus

[Hap]

Originally posted by tedrbr
It's about the Oil, Folks.

The source of cheap oil to fuel the western economies.  That's why the west is in the Middle East.  Western efforts to keep that cheap oil supply secure by being involved in that part of the world has led to many of the problems and anti-western feelings.  That in turn has led to modern terrorism.  

So long as we need that cheap oil, we will remain in the region, to try to keep the region "stable", and the war on terror will continue.

Were we ever to develop true alternative energy resources (which we won't, so long as there is oil to be had, as too many people have a vested interest in the oil economy that exists now), and were to leave that region to it's own devices, all the old hatreds and grudges would return...... the whole region would look like Iraq does today, but with no restraint.   Every faction trying to come out on top over every other.

And the rest of the world would care as much about the middle east in flames under those conditions as they do for Darfur now.  Some talk.  No action.


So long as we need the oil, we are committed to the region, and we are committed to spent blood and treasure to try and keep the lid on.

Pretty much perfect Ted.