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Offline LYNX

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« on: April 21, 2007, 03:12:53 AM »
Give this a thought.  What maneuver is the high plane doing and for what purpose.  Please vets ......only reply to learners.

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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 03:34:54 AM »
Maybe I`m wrong,

but for me it looks like a "low-speed-over-the-top maneuver" and departure.

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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2007, 05:25:40 AM »
I'd rather ask what he will/should do next :)


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« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2007, 05:56:17 AM »
It looks like a Split-S to me, for the purpose of gaining an altitude advantage over the enemy aircraft.
I believe this works especially well if you have some speed-advantage to begin with.

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« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 05:59:23 AM »
uh oh :noid

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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 07:27:02 AM »
He's just completed a true immelman and he's letting his hopefully slower opponent complete (or attempt to complete) the same so he can do a rudder reversal on him.

At least that's what it looks like without seeing the full flight path.
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« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2007, 07:39:51 AM »
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Originally posted by LYNX
What maneuver is the high plane doing and for what purpose.  


If it is in MA then he is setting up a HO
If it is in EW/MW he is making a run for it after having porked the base down there.



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« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2007, 07:49:37 AM »
High Plane did an Immelman while bottom plane did a Split-S ( Split-S on 1st merge shows sign of being NEW or unknowing how to engage for most part)

The Reason the top plane did an Immelman is to slow his spped so he could turn tighter/ also to go vertical to retain E in the potential _E category in case he needs it to evade further in to the fight ...

as it looks in the picture, it appears the top plane is now in a sense doing a drag  waiting for the lower plane to flop. Only thing is he is to far away from his opponent to really capitalize on it.....

my quick take of the picture.......
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« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2007, 07:54:10 AM »
If he had gone almost vertical instead of pulling the "maneuver" he'd be in a much better position for a quick kill.
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« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2007, 08:29:05 AM »
Lower plane is now attempting to do an immelmann himself so as to get on the 6 of the upper plane.
Unfortunately he blew a lot of E in the tight split S and is about to blow even more in that immelmann.
The higher plane having only done the single immelman is already starting to regain some of his E and is now in a position do do another immalman or a loop up over the top which will place him right above the lower plane just as it comes over the top.
Lower plane at a severe disadvantage here as if he keeps trying to go up verticallyto meet the now evern higher, higher plane he will stall. and will become an almost stationary target for the higher plane.and If he continues the immelman the higher plane just needs to drop on his 6
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« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2007, 08:39:15 AM »
I think more then just telling the learners what ACM is what here.
what we have is a look into the minds of the different players and how they might handle the situation or how they individually see the fight going.
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2007, 09:09:29 AM »
I KNOW!! I KNOW!! PICK ME PICK ME!!!! the higher planeis forming an immelman to try tomakethe other plane do the same therefore making him lose more energy....from here the plane with the alt advanage will prolly try to Ho the lower plane. :D

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« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2007, 09:14:02 AM »
how do i get the red streamers on my plane?
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« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2007, 09:48:12 AM »
The guy with the advantage is running away.
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« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2007, 10:09:20 AM »
Can't tell from the picture but if he's breaking into a double immelman I'd call it the right move, he'll be sitting on top of the enemy who seems to be asking for a rope.