Senate majority leader: Iraq war is LOST

[Viking]

Originally posted by john9001
so your saying 200,000 killed is not a blood bath?

That is correct, now you’re getting it. In this case 200,000 (or whatever the true number is) deaths (no one has provided any evidence that they were killed, but it is a safe assumption that some of them were) over an 11 year period is not a “bloodbath” by any commonly accepted definition of the word.

[straffo]

Originally posted by john9001

it seems to be saying that the death rates in prison are lower than in the general population, and 9 of 10 deaths are due to illness.

where is the "blood bath"?

Since when the population of a the prison is similar to the general population ????

[MiloMorai]

Your problem Viking is you took the word bloodbath too literaly. That is a common error for many words for those whose mother tongue is not English.

[Viking]

Originally posted by MiloMorai
Your problem Viking is you took the word bloodbath too literaly. That is a common error for many words for those whose mother tongue is not English.

I think the problem is more that many people exaggerate by using unnecessarily emotional words in inappropriate contexts. I find that of all the English speaking peoples the Americans do this the most … at least in the media and on this bbs. War, massacre, bloodbath, holocaust … powerful words that are used so much these days in trivial contexts that they lose all meaning. Americans go to “war” on everything these days and one is left wondering if they know what the word really means anymore.

[FrodeMk3]

Origanally posted by Viking

That is correct, now you’re getting it. In this case 200,000 (or whatever the true number is) deaths (no one has provided any evidence that they were killed, but it is a safe assumption that some of them were) over an 11 year period is not a “bloodbath” by any commonly accepted definition of the word.

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Ok...If 200,000 Human Beings killed isn't a bloodbath, It's certainly a Despotic Purge.

They were killed for a political reason.

Plus, there's the question of the validity of any intelligence info coming outta Vietnam Post-1975. The way the regime change was, any reports coming out of there would be compromised by being censored and edited by the Communists. Even the Red Cross, or any other Humane organization, would'nt have really been able to get the full story.

P.S. This thread was origanally about Iraq's regime, we seem to be sidetracked on Vietnam.

[Elfie]

I would consider 10,000 or even fewer people slaughtered a bloodbath. 10,000 is a heck of a lot of dead people.

[straffo]

Originally posted by Elfie
I would consider 10,000 or even fewer people slaughtered a bloodbath. 10,000 is a heck of a lot of dead people.

And you still use your car ?

[Viking]

Originally posted by Elfie
I would consider 10,000 or even fewer people slaughtered a bloodbath. 10,000 is a heck of a lot of dead people.

Again with the emotional labels. These people were not “slaughtered”, they were incarcerated in prison camps and labor camps where a number of them died of unnatural causes (less than 1 in 10 of the total deaths if Toad's numbers are correct) over a period of 11 years. Unnatural causes would include suicides, accidents and yes, executions.

Straffo brings up an interesting point. In 2004 42,636 people were killed in traffic accidents in the USA. Do you consider this a “bloodbath”? Were they “slaughtered”? Obviously not.

Between 2001 and 2004 12,129 people died in US State prisons. Does that constitute a “bloodbath”? Were they “slaughtered”? Obviously not.

[Eagler]

Marine Corporal From A Bunker In Ramadi: “I Got A Message For That sweetheart Harry Reid"

I always thought you don't lose a fight until you give up.
Guess the dumbacrats are preparing the way for their "new direction" in the Iraq war ... to the dems, reverse is a new direction in their yellow minds