I agree with you Slash... that is either excessive, or p-poor marksmanship...
Originally posted by Cougar68
Bologna. (i can't say what I want with the language filter) Dachsunds are bred to hunt rabbits and mice, collies herd anything in range, pointers point and retrievers play fetch. Why is it so hard to accept that a dog bred to fight and kill will fight and kill? The best hunting dogs are the ones you don't have to teach. And you know how to train a border collie to herd sheep? You put it in with them! The training is just to learn commands. Instinct is the real drive.
Cougar, you are wrong on so many levels. Dogs have to be trained to fight and kill. The Daschund may have the hardwiring for hunting, but it needs to learn, or be taught how to stalk the kill. Then LEARN how to make the kill.
Some dogs may be more pre-disposed to meanness training, such as the guard dogs and poodles, true. But they HAVE TO BE TAUGHT to be mean, to attack, to not like humans, or prey animals, or other dogs.
ALL dogs are PACK animals. They look to us as the pack LEADERS. If you are not in a pack Mentallity, with your pet, then you not only do not deserve the pet, but need some education in animal behavior before being considered worthy of owning even a hamster.
You take any pack, or herd oriented animal and ostrascize it from the PACK, then where is it going to learn what is right and what is wrong of it? Who is going to be around to correct it at the time it's being bad, and praise it when doing good?
I repeat... NO DOG IS BORN BAD. Why is that so difficult for you to grasp sir? After 54 years around all types of dogs in all types of situations, I know this is fact. Heck, any competent dog trainer will tell you the same thing if you take the time to ask.
The best hunting dogs still need to learn fetch/retrieve commands. They may have the basics of the stalk, the point, the flush, but you have to teach them what you expect them to do on the hunts. And this teaching takes a determined human, or PACK leader to do it properly. Anyone that says different is so full of malarky as to be laughable.
To me, it sounds like your ideal hunting dogs are the ones I find lost in the woods every year during hunting season, because the owner, or pack leader, refused to properly train them to return...
Here is a pointer on dog psych 101 - Never EVER turn your back and run from a strange dog, no matter the breed.
This may sound contradictory to what I preach above, but bear with me. All dogs are prey animals, this is true. If they see you running away, then you must be prey, and the instinct, however atavistic, tells it to give chase, and yes, I concede that the dog in most cases will indeed give chase... But it is not doing so out of meanness. It is doing so because you placed yourself in the position of PREY, and not LEADER.
when confronted by a "vicious" dog, or bear for that matter, always back away when retreating. Shout, "Bad DOG!", or "Go away you stupid MOFO biotch" or whatever comes to mind, but never EVER turn your back until you are safe. Turning tail and running means the chase is on, whether the dog is anti-social, or just wanting to play.
Any animal, not just dogs, will fight to the death given the right circumstances. I've seen a 3oz. Mole take on my 60 pound Labrador, when the lab had it cornered. It lost the fight, but it did its best to defend itself to the very end when it knew it could not escape.
...I'll end this, knowing that what I write is lost on you and others, but with the hopes that some small part of it will sink in to the rest. I know what I know because I live what I'm preaching. Have trained halfbreed wolves, and turned "bad dogs" into good ones. All it takes is some effort on our part, and a little dedication to understanding where the dog is coming form... much like learning to read people.
adieu
