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Offline Rino

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« Reply #120 on: May 07, 2007, 07:07:23 PM »
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The Sherman series of tanks were piles of junk.   At least, that's what the WWII Vet's have told me.


     The Shermans were very good at the job they were intended for.  They
were never designed to be main battle tanks..infantry support.
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« Reply #121 on: May 07, 2007, 07:08:23 PM »
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Maybe when you've been here longer you'll learn. [/QUOTE

Learn what? I've been here for years. Don't judge me by my post count.
Like I said... this is my opinion. Don't like it? Then read on past bro. [/B]


     So I guess you can be here for years and still have dumb ideas...
interesting.
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« Reply #122 on: May 07, 2007, 07:14:24 PM »
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Many players switch to the low side for the sole purpose of earning more perks.

Personally, to add some realism to the game, the losing side should be the one with ENY.  If one side or another has lost many of their bases, had their strats nailed, are losing players like flies, it would stand to reason that they should be the ones who have difficulty in uppin the prime aircraft.  for example, in WWII, the germans had ENY of sorts due to the constant bombing by the Allies.
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« Reply #123 on: May 07, 2007, 07:17:08 PM »
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Learn what? I've been here for years. Don't judge me by my post count.
Like I said... this is my opinion. Don't like it? Then read on past bro.
My mistake. Just some of those request sounds like a 3 weeks, armchair general noob.

For instance the rank for CV request. Why would you need a good rank for that? If you've been here for years you'll know that the best ranked fighter is certainly not truely the best stick in game. Most of those guys are in the 500-1500 range. They'd take the #1 guy and beat the snot outta him.

Another 1 is the squad not being able to change. If you've never done this than you've never had fun. Nothing better than killing a squady and then taunting him. One of my most memorible sorties included me in a JU88 and getting into a HO fight with my squady Stang's 109 w/a 30mm cannon. I came out on top somehow and we had a good laugh about it.. at least I did.

ENY is the best idea ever. It puts the horde warriors at a disadvantage. The old MA was a cesspool. As Toad said the fights seemed to be the hordes making a big spinning wheel trying to avoid each other. It's just sad people want to win the war(that never ends) at all cost.
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« Reply #124 on: May 07, 2007, 07:17:50 PM »
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So I guess you can be here for years and still have dumb ideas...
interesting.
Yup, he proved me wrong lol.
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« Reply #125 on: May 07, 2007, 07:18:24 PM »
Guess it wouldn't be a bad thing to have afk'ers disco'd....but it works both ways.  I'm sure not everyone that is getting ganged by the horde is up in the air either......

Don't understand why being able to change countries is a bad thing, or what it has to do with squads.  If this is because of spying, I am more than sure that squads who actually care about this and choose not to spy, will and do still take full advantage of any information given.

If someone believes that having a huge advantage against another team is fair, then wouldn't taking control of a NME CV be fair as well?  Wouldn't be fair to rat out missions?  

Personally I believe none of these things are right, nor fair to a large number of players.  In the examples above, it doesn't matter which way you slice it, you are still looking for a big, unfair advantage, as an end to YOUR means, to make the game EASIER for YOU.  I would find it ironic that anyone would ask for something to be done about spying and such, yet hope that eny get removed becuae it is unfair....actually it is rather comical.
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« Reply #126 on: May 08, 2007, 12:41:12 AM »
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But I also think there should be a limit to the max ENY that can be imposed, say 19 or maybe 24.  Something that still allows a good number of capable planes, versus  "wtf I can only fly Hurri 1s, Stukas and Bettys?!?!?!"


There is mysterious note in country status page - "flight is disabled for ENY 29". I never see so high ENY and dont know exactly what it mean, but i have a guess...
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« Reply #127 on: May 08, 2007, 09:39:08 AM »
It means tha horde gets ta play candyland in tha towa fo` a bit . Ive seen it hit 28, but not tha magic numba fo' sho'.
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« Reply #128 on: May 08, 2007, 09:48:27 AM »
Was on the other night. Knights outnumbered by a large margin as usual. Text Buffer: "How do I change to the red side?"


The side with numbers attracts more numbers. The skill level may suck but, "Quantity has a quality all its own." Joseph Stalin

So in the interest of fair gameplay......uhhh, never mind, fair game play is not in the picture. I just want an overwhelming advantage........How do I switch to Roo....er,  red again?  :D


i dont got enough perkies as it is and i like upen my lancs to kill 1 dang t 34 or wirble its fun droping 42 bombs

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« Reply #129 on: May 08, 2007, 10:16:23 AM »
I log in last night to BelethCH whining on 200 about "it must be fun to be a Rook".   Rooks had the numbers advantage about 1/2 hour after I logged on, until then, Bish were the large stack.   I told "I'm one of the few Rooks that will change, and some Rooks hate me for it."  

I cannot change every hour.   It isn't fun for me.   What is fun is switching and flying with the country for the night.    To me, switching every 1-2 hours is equivalent to having a short attention span.
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« Reply #130 on: May 08, 2007, 10:38:23 AM »
I would like to see the server disco anyone that is inactive for 30 minutes. I keep hearing this, and I can't understand how those of you requesting it continue to miss the bigger picture - Auto-signoff won't matter because those that now sit in the tower waiting for a plane they like will simply hop in and out of a crappy plane periodically and defeat the auto-logoff. And those that have figured out how to "play dirty" will continue to do so in a manner that better hides that they are doing so and avoids the auto-logoff too.

Switching countries shouldn't be allowed by anyone in a squad.
Changing countries should lock you into that country for the remainder of the month or 96 hours minimum.
 
And this betters the game how?  The majority of players are in squads - how does removing one option for balancing the game when there is a high eny help?

ENY needs to go until it can be re-evaluated.  I disagree - it needs to be fixed so that it's not exploitable, but it currently works better than having nothing would.

Needs to be only 1 perk plane/vehicle in any catagory. Fighter, bomber and ground vehicles.
Minimum rank of 500 to command a CV task force.
 Not sure what you think these would accomplish, other than making some aircraft  (F4U-1C comes to mind) generally more prevalent.  As it is now, the perk limits the amount of them you run into because it's nearly impossible to generate enough perk points flying it to cover the periodic loss of it.

Uncapturable bases should done away with.   Again, I disagree - the uncapturable bases gives each side a toehold that they can mount some sort of an opposition from, rather than being left with a game of one-field-vulchamatic.

The other request where people need to look at the bigger picture is the constant request to count only inflight players towards ENY.  The problem with that is that it allows a large group (mega-squads, anyone?) to exploit ENY by coordinating a simultaneous launch.  It does have an advantage over the current system, though.  It requires a coordinated effort to game - and is only game-able for a very short duration -  unlike the current ENY system where the players that exploit it have a cumulative effect.

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« Reply #131 on: May 08, 2007, 10:38:26 AM »
Seems to me that HTC is between a rock and a hard place. Prior to the ENY deployment, there were countless threads griping about the hordes, especially when the map got close to a reset and the side jumpers bailed to the winning side. Hitech sought to placate  the horde whiners and now the ENY whiners are banging the drum.

In the end, it's up to the players to solve the problem: keep the sides balanced and there's no issue. OK I've heard all the arguments from those who refuse to switch chess pieces, but in a nutshell if you're not willing to balance arena numbers, don't gripe about the outcome.

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« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2007, 11:31:00 AM »
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.....In the end, it's up to the players to solve the problem: keep the sides balanced and there's no issue. OK I've heard all the arguments from those who refuse to switch chess pieces, but in a nutshell if you're not willing to balance arena numbers, don't gripe about the outcome.

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that simple explanation is the biggest problem the whiners have! Something so simple can't possibly fix the ENY problem !  Can it?  :D

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« Reply #133 on: May 08, 2007, 11:51:18 AM »
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Seems to me that HTC is between a rock and a hard place. Prior to the ENY deployment, there were countless threads griping about the hordes, especially when the map got close to a reset and the side jumpers bailed to the winning side. Hitech sought to placate  the horde whiners and now the ENY whiners are banging the drum.

In the end, it's up to the players to solve the problem: keep the sides balanced and there's no issue. OK I've heard all the arguments from those who refuse to switch chess pieces, but in a nutshell if you're not willing to balance arena numbers, don't gripe about the outcome.

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I am part of the solution.  I log on, find the team with the fewest numbers and switch to that side.  People that whine they can't fly w/ their squads this way should have their whole squad switch..now that  would balance some things.  Loyalty to a chess piece is so beyond rediculous.

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« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2007, 11:54:19 AM »
Plus, they might actually make a few friends on the other countries, instead of having misguided hate for anyone not of their chess piece.  It's a joy to not only fly with your friends, but also against them.