ENY, Uncap bases, ETC, discussion.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by pictolrac
NoI did not forget but 99% of the comments in the forums are hammering on about model accuracy of the planes trains tanks buses boats - you name it there is a comment on it - how it performs and reflects its real life counterpart.

And 99% of those 99% have absolutely no clue as to what they are talking about when it comes to ... "model accuracy".

[KTM520guy]

Originally posted by SlapShot


Percentages are heavily in favor for the team with the extra players.

Maybe so but certainly not outside the relm of possibility. Some people may thrive on fight for the short side.

Do the extra players still count when they came on the short bus?

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by pictolrac
One thing though - if we could always fly a Tempest and shoot in a Tiger - we would ALL do it. Worth a thought......

Not all, but the greater majority would and that had been proven through past experiences. You obviously weren't around when the F4U-C was introduced. The arena was loaded with F4U-Cs all over the place ... it was mayhem ... hence it's perk cost, and the locust F4U-Cs disappeared and sanity in the arena reigned once again.

Do you think that they would perk planes just for the heck of it ? ... or do you think that HiTech and HTC has been at this for many many years and might have a slight inkling of knowing what they are doing and what is best for their business better than any of us?

Ponder that for awhile.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by KTM520guy
Maybe so but certainly not outside the relm of possibility. Some people may thrive on fight for the short side.

Do the extra players still count when they came on the short bus?

Obviously nothing is outside the realm of possibility ... with the exception of the abolishment of ENY ... jump up and down ... hold your breath ... threaten to quit ... whatever ... it ain't going away.

[KTM520guy]

ENY is here to stay. No doubt about it. Still needs fixing though. The only thing it does at the moment is cause people to cry about it on the bbs.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by SlapShot
Do you think that they would perk planes just for the heck of it ? ... or do you think that HiTech and HTC has been at this for many many years and might have a slight inkling of knowing what they are doing and what is best for their business better than any of us?

Ponder that for awhile.

Sometimes wonder why certain are and some aren't.
4 hi alt perofrmers -
Spit XIV, Ta-152, 109-K4, P-47N - Whys only the XIV perked?

Also ENY values are way screwy.
All it needs is for a plane to become popular and it's slapped with an 5 ENY value.
ENY values make no sense anymore as they are now being used to control planes.

Whole planeset needs an ENY value overhaul from the current cluster it's in now.

Even a Hurri IIc becomes unavailable way before 1944/5 monsters, tell me thats not fugged up.

ENY 5 planes -
F4U-1C
F4-U4
La-7
Me 163B
Me 262A-1
NIK2-J
P-47N
Spit XIV
Spit XVI
Ta 152H-1
Tempest

ENY values are getting to be a joke, they are meaningless.

[SlapShot]

Originally posted by KTM520guy
ENY is here to stay. No doubt about it. Still needs fixing though. The only it does at the moment is cause people to cry about it on the bbs.

No matter which way it is tweaked (and I agree you and kev that is needs to be tweaked) there will always be a faction that will piss 'n moan about it ... cause they just don't get it.

[Souless]

ENY values are getting to be a joke, they are meaningless. [/B]

Kev want to elobaorate?


Honestly ENY affects those that fly planes with a 10 value the most.
People flying 10 ENY planes and below are the ones taking the hit.

[LePaul]

Well this may sound repettive but Ill chime in as well.

My opinions are based on the fact I fly 3 times a week, as time allows.  Its not like I accumulate a ton of points like players who live on here (SHawk, etc      )

ENY stinks.  In my case, its not like I fly anything too dweeby.  But when you cant even up a P-51B...that's just foolish.

Arenas...well, it stinks to be unable on any given evening to not be able to link up with your squad.

Perk points....the things that are currently perked should be reviewed.  Ta-152?  Ar234?  F-4C?  I'd prefer the perk points stay at a flat rate.  Me-262 should be and stay 200 perks.  But to wander up to 380 and such....again, just silly.

The efforts to contain the "horde" have largely failed.  People just naturally go where the fight is.  

Strat really needs to be reviewed.  We have airbases where we cant pork fuel, yet ord can be downed and stay down for an hour.  Fuels should, and are, a much softer target.  Fuels down to 25% restricts the fighter options much more than ENY.  Its just moronic to see a lone Typhoon knock down a bases ammo bunkers...bunkers.  

Anyways...that's my polite vent.  

I enjoy the game, overall...the graphical changes have been nice.  But some of the mechanics mentioned above deserve to be reviewed.

[hubsonfire]

The 152 has been unperked for a while now, btw.

The problem with porkable fuel is that it allows the horde side to restrict flight for the lower numbers side, which only exagerates the numbers imbalance. Then again, I suppose most of the people who whine about ENY would like that.

[Kev367th]

Originally posted by Souless
Kev want to elobaorate?


Honestly ENY affects those that fly planes with a 10 value the most.
People flying 10 ENY planes and below are the ones taking the hit.

Sure.

They values are meaningless because -

a) They are being used for a purpose other than what they were originally intended for.
b) It only needs a plane to become 'popular' to gain an low ENY - ENY 5 Spit Ia anyone? OK extreme but you see the point.
c) You have 1942/3 planes disappearing because of ENY before 1944/5 ones. Hurri IIc springs to mind.

All of these and more just prove how meaningless the current ENY values are.
The whole planeset needs an ENY value overhaul, we used to have very few ENY 5 planes, look at the list now, and it will only grow.

When you have tempests, 163s, 262 with the same ENY as NIK's, XVI's etc it only shows how the ENY values are being rendered meaningless.
They no longer represent anything now apart from a plane that became popular.

Strange the Pony D manages to get away with an ENY 8, isn't it, hmmmm.

[REP0MAN]

Originally posted by hubsonfire
The 152 has been unperked for a while now, btw.

The problem with porkable fuel is that it allows the horde side to restrict flight for the lower numbers side, which only exagerates the numbers imbalance. Then again, I suppose most of the people who whine about ENY would like that.

THIS is exactly the motivation behind every ENY complaint that comes across the BBS. Has been for some time now.

Here is the answer that all of your complaining will get you from HTC.......

Ready?


Switch countries, you're plane IS available over there. If you are chess piece loyal, learn to fly the P-40E.

Skuzzy, please make this one go away.

[CAP1]

Originally posted by Pieper
I think that the arena split is fine....but the servers should be able to handle all players in one arena.....ENY is out of control late at night when the numbers are small, 25 20 10 players and high country has 20 ENY????????what is that........




only 20 ENY?????

ever had it so hi that the only thing you could fly with foward firing guns was a JU88?

[CAP1]

Originally posted by halcyon
Having ENY in the first place implies that there is an abundance of good pilots per country.

***laughs uncontrollably in the corner***

Excuse me. Sorry about that.

Guess what happens when ENY kicks in?
All the nice airplanes that were being flown by crappy pilots are now replaced with crappy airplanes still being flown by equally crappy pilots.

4 to the F4U-1 REALLY makes a flippin' difference here?

NO!

Get rid of ENY, it has no place in a game that does not have a majority of pilots who know how to take advantage of every faucet the planes have to offer.

another scenario...........
ENY Kicks in............because say...we(knights) have 20 people on, and the rooks(in this scenario)have 14.  now the rooks decide they want A20. suppose that of those 14, 8 are a squad, while knights are a few different squads of only a couple members each.  so now, we have 8 rooks in GOOD equipment attacking A20, with say....only 3 to 5 knights mustered to defend...in CRAPPY equipment. so now at A20, we're outnumbered, AND outclassed in equipment. we call for help, but no one else comes. now....how's that keeping things fair?

 in this instance too, it seems as though most newbies are by default assigned to knights, and don't change...that seems to kicik up ENY too.

and to top ALL of this off, quite a few DO suck in fighters..myself included(although we're trying to get better) which doesn't help at all if the rooks happen to have a few top guns with them in the attack. i mean...can you imagine fighting a zeke in a 110? or tryin to run down a boston in a zeke?


someone has it in their signiture........
hitler would have loved ENY

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[BiPoLaR]

Originally posted by Carwash
ENY should be base on "In Flight" numbers, not all players logged on.

that is a good idea...you have these ppl who go AFK in tower all night and kill your ENY...outta 40 ppl 20 might be in flight...just do something...im bout spend my $15 a month on another game...its getting old and really fast