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Offline Pieper

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2007, 11:32:28 PM »
This discussion should stay at the top. there are alot of us that feel strongly about this.
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2007, 11:35:30 PM »
I think that the arena split is fine....but the servers should be able to handle all players in one arena.....ENY is out of control late at night when the numbers are small, 25 20 10 players and high country has 20 ENY????????what is that........plus the maps are all played out.....If the server can't support a large map....get a better one. We all have to cut our graphics in here unless we are playin with a $10,000 alienware computer...use server strength to support more people and bigger maps.

just want to ad a footnote here.....ENY needs improvment...players stagnant in the tower for some time shouldn't matter.....tanks and planes should have seperate calculations too
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2007, 11:38:23 PM »
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2007, 11:44:14 PM »
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They are necessary evils until folks like yourselves have an interest in balanced gameplay. It really is that simple. There's no great mystery, and no other reasons for their existence.


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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2007, 11:52:22 PM »
Holy Whine Thread Batman!
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« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2007, 12:03:08 AM »
Having ENY in the first place implies that there is an abundance of good pilots per country.

***laughs uncontrollably in the corner***

Excuse me. Sorry about that.

Guess what happens when ENY kicks in?
All the nice airplanes that were being flown by crappy pilots are now replaced with crappy airplanes still being flown by equally crappy pilots.

Half the players in my country wouldn't know how to properly fly the F4U anyway. Do you (I'm talking to HTC here) think that limiting it from the F4U-4 to the F4U-1 REALLY makes a flippin' difference here?

NO!

Get rid of ENY, it has no place in a game that does not have a majority of pilots who know how to take advantage of every faucet the planes have to offer.

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2007, 12:10:57 AM »
I understand uncapturable fields with new format of having to capture certain percentage of both opposing teams fields to win....but lets get back to the point





I think that the arena split is fine....but the servers should be able to handle all players in one arena.....ENY is out of control late at night when the numbers are small, 25 20 10 players and high country has 20 ENY????????what is that........plus the maps are all played out.....If the server can't support a large map....get a better one. We all have to cut our graphics in here unless we are playin with a $10,000 alienware computer...use server strength to support more people and bigger maps.

just want to ad a footnote here.....ENY needs improvment...players stagnant in the tower for some time shouldn't matter.....tanks and planes should have seperate calculations too
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2007, 12:12:08 AM »
hmm alot of interest fast in this subject......... so guess Ill voice my 2 cents......... on a variety of topics

first off get real........ everyone is sick of the same 4 maps over and over....... there is no logical explanation for not using other maps, other than it interferes with the lame reset rules......... and dont even pretend to think it has anything to do with servers......... a server will run a large map the exact same as a small map....... traffic is all the server cares about (the number of people on it)

next getting to server traffic....... WTF with the arena balancing when 1 arena has 120 people ........ duh if theres 130 people on and you have "supereme servers" then whats the problem with 1 arena??? instead we are forced to goto the the arena with 10 people until they are 90% balanced? come on......... most people who PAY to play prefer at least 300 in an arena........ thats where the line should be drawn before any balancing comes into play...

ENY: how IDIOTIC is this?  you penalize a country for having more players logged in......... then you allow people to switch countries every hour????
do you not see the path this follows? did it ever occur that some might switch just to stack this factor?? (whether it dawned on you or not.... it happens EVERY day)

M4?.......... hmmm interesting topic........ the sherman most widely used during the war was very weak ....... however the version used in the game wasnt as weak........a sherman could not take a hit like a tiger in any of its versions....... however........ the tiger is WAY overmodeled in the game as well so wtf is the difference?.... should we perk the M4? IMO only if you unperk the Tiger......... gotta give everyone a chance at a higher edge tank...... and the P4 is no competition for either of these tanks in the game

back to country switching........ this IMO should be a little more regulated......although its been discussed before and brought to the greater benefit of HTC.... you should consider the thoughts of your PAYING customers a bit more....... limit it to perhaps 1/24........ that limits the ability to switch simply to get info....... and if I hear any spies in war crap Ill just scream....... if this was real war we wouldnt get to respawn.......


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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2007, 12:21:06 AM »
ENY is Ok, so are uncapturable bases.  Yeah ENY sometimes limits the play, but try flying something else other the most popular planes. The only thing that bites about eny is when its so high you can't up any bombers.  As for uncapping bases.  Think about this, say one country has 40 more players and takes all of another countries bases, now what? You can't fly in that arena.  I would like to see new maps, or old maps that haven't been in the rotation.  Just give it time. By the way Bish had ENY of 29 today.  Still stayed in the arena and flew and had fun. Just my two cents.
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« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2007, 12:30:10 AM »
One thing I have never understood is how can you balance game play using raw numbers? If your a bish half of your players are dolts to start with. Should they be counted?
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2007, 12:41:08 AM »
This topic has been rehashed many times.

Yes in real war things are not balanced.  This is a game, the idea that it will be fun for all.

This is not a war simulator, no matter how hard some want to turn it into one.

We all know why uncapturable fields.  Both ways have been done.

Server was split because HTC felt that lumping 500 players into one arena was leading to a harsh community.

Large maps spread fights out, way out.  Though some would enjoy the smaller engagments, intense fights seemed few and far between.....something it seems was a desired effect.

Personally, I believe online games need some form of side balancing.  How much fun would it be to have 3:1 odds and steam roll maps day in and day out.  Is it a perfect system, no, but what is?  So here are some solutions.  If you can't fly your low eny plane, switch countries, switch arena, learn a new plane (there a plenty of good ones), or log off.  There are options.  Though I guess I can see how it might not be ideal situation for GV's, It is Aces High afterall.....I always thought GV's were mostly there so we would have something to drop bombs on.

I guess the biggest thing, what is preventing you from having fun?
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2007, 12:42:51 AM »
I agree with the ENY at last nights has been out of control. I can't tell you how many times there are less than 100 people on the server. All the "in flight" numbers will be almost equal, yet seems like time and time again a team will have a lot of tower dwellers that are AFK and never fight.

So all the AFKer's kill the ENY for that team. It gets compounded when a map is close to reset, the winning team gets more and more ENY penalty because guys go AFK and stay in the server, because they want their ENY points..

That or the two smaller teams gang up on the other team that happens to have more players. So the team with the most players gets hit with bad ENY, meanwhile they are at a numbers disadvantage on each front.

I could care less about 5,10 or even 15 ENY.. but when it starts getting in the 20's it's ridiculous.

I don't understand why the maps can't be broken up into 4 sections and each section could have a independent ENY. I think a system like that would go a lot farther to balancing the fighting areas.
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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2007, 12:49:58 AM »
What a bunch of cry babies!!! This entire thread is nothing more than "I want, I want, I want!!!!!!"   Whaaaaaaa ENY is too high and I can't fly the plane I WANT. I pay my money to fly what I WANT.


Well kiddos this game is alot like real life, sometimes you don't get what you want because other people are effecting things. Deal with it, or don't play. It's as simple as that. Or you can invest your own money and make a game like you want. HiTech has made this game how he sees fit. It's by far the best game out there for this time period. Either enjoy it for what it offers and quit whinning, or take your game play some where else but stop beating the dead horse already.

ENY is never going away and that's a good thing in my opinion.
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2007, 12:57:55 AM »
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What a bunch of cry babies!!! This entire thread is nothing more than "I want, I want, I want!!!!!!"   Whaaaaaaa ENY is too high and I can't fly the plane I WANT. I pay my money to fly what I WANT.


Well kiddos this game is alot like real life, sometimes you don't get what you want because other people are effecting things. Deal with it, or don't play. It's as simple as that. Or you can invest your own money and make a game like you want. HiTech has made this game how he sees fit. It's by far the best game out there for this time period. Either enjoy it for what it offers and quit whinning, or take your game play some where else but stop beating the dead horse already.

ENY is never going away and that's a good thing in my opinion.


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