Plot to Attack Ft. Dix Foiled

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Yup and as a partial result of that our soldiers are being attackeed alot more often over there then our civilians are being attacked here.

Probably has something to do with less distance to travel and all that to attack America

Do the Iraqis leave the other countries troops alone?

[DREDIOCK]

No the insurgents do not but.
They go by the rule that if you are standing with us, you are us.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK
No the insurgents do not but.
They go by the rule that if you are standing with us, you are us.

Or could it be that they're against occupation in general?

[Shifty]

I'm just glad the plot got foiled.

 There is only one thing that causes me concern at Brooke Army Medical Center is the security. My wife and I were some what astonished when we first arrived to see our son how easy it was to get in the gate for access to the hospital.

Having gone through security at Ft Hood several times getting through the gate at BAMC was just a matter of stopping showing your ID to the civilian gate guard, and saying you were visiting somebody in the hospital. Woosh you drive right up to the front of the building in less than 1/4 of a mile. I thought many times while there how easy it would be for a terrorist to blast through the gate and drive a truck or car bomb right into the front of the hospital to finish off the wounded Soldiers and Marines being treated there.

Access to the hospital has to be easy because the trauma section there treats civilians from the San Antonio area. So their families need easy access to the facility. Still I wish they tighten it up a bit. I'm so thankful this bunch was caught before they could hit Ft Dix.

MT, Oboe, I guess it's more fun to make a political back hand at the administration and the war, instead of just being happy the plot was foiled without a loss of life?

[Toad]

Rumor has it the Sunni's are behind the majority of the strikes against the Coalition forces.

Do you think once all the troops leave the Shia will join hands with the Sunnis and sing "I'd like to teach the world to sing"?

Or is there the possibility that once the Sunni's run the Coalition out, the Shia will decide it's time for major payback for the Saddam years?

[lazs2]

My opinion?   we haven't had any successful attacks here in ages.

I don't think it is because of "homeland security"  I don't think it is because we have made our airports into the most unpleasant experiance free people can have...

It is because we are keeping the real hard core die hard terrorists and islamofacists strained to the max in one little country a long ways from here.

No huge alphabet soup government agency caught these guys... A clerk at a DVD copy place caught em.   If we disbanded all the homeland security BS these guys would have still been caught.

lazs

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by MrRiplEy[H]
Or could it be that they're against occupation in general?

No.
If you consider on average they kill off more Iraquies then military occupiers
I wouldnt say that was the primary reason.

The ones that attack us tend to more often then not.
Not even be Iraqi

Or so I've been hearing

[Maverick]

Originally posted by midnight Target
Yeah boy howdy! Lucky we attacked Iraq!

Since none were from iraq, perhaps you can explain how that ties in.

Quote "Four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one was born in Jordan and one came from Turkey, authorities said. All had lived in the United States for years. Three were in the United States illegally; two had green cards allowing them to stay in this country permanently; and the sixth is a U.S. citizen. "

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Gunthr
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i will be interested in learning how they found one another.... [/B]

I understand they are all volunteers for the hillary campagn.......

[Chairboy]

I'm with Shifty on this, the important thing is that the attack was foiled.  The clerk that asked a question about something unusual, the law enforcement that investigated, it sounds like, at this stage, an example of things coming together the way they should.

It's an extra plus that it was foiled without the use of any of the weird Patriot Act based attacks on personal liberty, evidence that we can effectively protect ourselves without chucking the constitution out the window.

[oboe]

Hi Shifty,

I am just trying to refute the notion that we must fight them in Iraq or they will follow us here, per Richard Clark's comment.     It is beyond me why you would suggest that I or anybody else is not happy this plot was foiled.    That is contemptible.

I don't consider my remark as 'making fun' of the administration or the war.

IMO this whole situation: the war, Jihadism, terrorism, 9/11 - there is nothing to be made fun of about it.   I don't find one damn thing funny about any of it.  

There are points of view which can be agreed or disagreed with, or proven wrong, as in this case.  

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Maverick
Since none were from iraq, perhaps you can explain how that ties in.

Quote "Four of the men were born in the former Yugoslavia, one was born in Jordan and one came from Turkey, authorities said. All had lived in the United States for years. Three were in the United States illegally; two had green cards allowing them to stay in this country permanently; and the sixth is a U.S. citizen. "

You would have to read the original post in the thread, then you would have to understand that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were cited, then you would have to realize that attacking Iraq had absolutely NOTHING to do with thwarting this attack, then you would need to see the irony of the original cite, then maybe you as a former police officer would need to see that police work and not armed invasions have done more to thwart attacks on our soil, then and only then would I be able to explain....

Now aren't you amazed that I covered all of that in one line?

boy howdy.

[Shifty]

Originally posted by oboe
I thought it was common knowledge we can't leave Iraq or Afghanistan, because if we do the terrorists will just follow us here.    So we need to stay there, to keep them from coming here.   Or in other words, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain."

Forgive me Oboe. My bad for not seeing your relief and appreciation that nobody was killed, and the plot was foiled by the above statement.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by midnight Target
You would have to read the original post in the thread, then you would have to understand that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were cited, then you would have to realize that attacking Iraq had absolutely NOTHING to do with thwarting this attack, then you would need to see the irony of the original cite, then maybe you as a former police officer would need to see that police work and not armed invasions have done more to thwart attacks on our soil, then and only then would I be able to explain....

Now aren't you amazed that I covered all of that in one line?

boy howdy.

Not at all. I pretty much expected something like it. It's drivel but it's your right to spout it. You read very very much between lines that do not seem to yet exist to determine the reason these folks were going to try this attack.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by Maverick
Not at all. I pretty much expected something like it. It's drivel but it's your right to spout it. You read very very much between lines that do not seem to yet exist to determine the reason these folks were going to try this attack.

Really?

So you are suggesting that they wanted to attack 'because' of the Iraq war? Or maybe 'in spite' of the Iraq war? I mean which is it? And does it really matter which it is, because either way the Iraq war didn't help.