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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2007, 02:25:09 PM »
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The fundamental flaw in our thinking about Bin Laden is that "Muslims hate and attack us for what we are and think, rather than what we do." Muslims are bothered by our modernity, democracy, and sexuality, but they are rarely spurred to action unless American forces encroach on their lands. It's American foreign policy that enrages Osama and al-Qaida, not American culture and society. - Michael Scheuer


Bin Laden attacked the US as a way to get back at Saudi Arabia when they gave him the boot and kicked his crazy arse out of their country. He sees the royal family there as US lackeys.
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« Reply #46 on: May 16, 2007, 02:33:49 PM »
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BS


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Bin Laden attacked the US as a way to get back at Saudi Arabia when they gave him the boot and kicked his crazy arse out of their country. He sees the royal family there as US lackeys.


You're right. You know more about Bin Laden than a 22 year CIA veteran. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2007, 02:37:58 PM »
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i'm not sure we should allow bin Laden to dictate our foreign policy. this is one reason why i do not support the Democrat party.

I agree. Maybe some logic would suffice.
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« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2007, 02:57:33 PM »
Ahhhh, this thread cheered me right up.

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Well we know whose being idiotic now.


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I remember where I was when all that happened. Do you?
 

Did your teacher bring a TV into the 5th grade classroom?
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« Reply #49 on: May 16, 2007, 03:02:13 PM »
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You're right. You know more about Bin Laden than a 22 year CIA veteran. :rolleyes:


Nope  - I just stayed at a Holiday Inn Express and watched the History channel :)
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« Reply #50 on: May 16, 2007, 03:39:48 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: May 16, 2007, 03:41:56 PM »
i'm enraged with Osama and al-Qaida's foreign policy. He wants the "infidel" out of the ME.  OK, fair is fair, get all muslims out of the USA.
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« Reply #52 on: May 16, 2007, 03:59:25 PM »
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good recap IMHO...

Rudy Giuliani v. Ron Paul, and Reality


It's an interesting article, but you're not going to score any points by quoting The Nation. They are as biased as Fox News.

Just sayin...
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« Reply #53 on: May 16, 2007, 04:05:02 PM »
good recap bsaddict.  I think R. Paul has clarity about the ME situation, although i think its crazy to just up and pull out of Iraq right now. I think that there are a lot of conservatives who will find him to be very refreshing, especially with his belief in minimal government.  other issues not so much.

i don't see him instilling confidence in Americans that he has the will to assertively protect Americans against terrorism.   Hillary Clinton steamrolls R. Paul in that area.  

I'd really like to like R. Paul more, but I'm dead set against just pulling out of Iraq right now like he wants to.

Being a superpower, the USA is going to piss off somebody somewhere no matter what our foreign policy is.  i'm not saying we couldn't have better foreign policy in the future, but whatever the reason Islamists hate us, they still hate us, and we have to deal with that.  Disengaging from everything isn't going to prevent future attacks.
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« Reply #54 on: May 16, 2007, 04:11:22 PM »
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Disengaging from everything isn't going to prevent future attacks.

by itself, you're right.  you gotta combine that with a policy shift.
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« Reply #55 on: May 16, 2007, 04:18:11 PM »
What Paul said is right. Gulliani, nothing says POLITICIAN quite like playing the "I survived 9/11" card.
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« Reply #56 on: May 16, 2007, 04:19:46 PM »
with all due respect bsaddict, what policy shift? - combined with immediately pulling out of Iraq - are you suggesting?  and what would it acomplish?
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« Reply #57 on: May 16, 2007, 04:33:24 PM »
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I think Ron Paul was spot on.


I do too...

Man, I miss traditional conservatives/libertarians . :confused:

Well said Rep. Paul.
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« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2007, 04:34:50 PM »
You're not a shade of that guy are you ink?

I'm sorry I just have to post this. Enjoy the read, because it highlights the flaws in your reasoning. Unless you don't want to read anything that challenges your reasoning

I'm not a "shade" of anyone.
 now i did read what you put up here, but in now way does it dispute what i feel is the truth, its actually quite pointless.
    if YOU were to maybe do a little research you might find the truth, i dont know who in the government did the towers, but it was an inside job. im sorry, but the truth hurts.
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« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2007, 04:38:07 PM »
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You're not a shade of that guy are you ink?

I'm sorry I just have to post this. Enjoy the read, because it highlights the flaws in your reasoning. Unless you don't want to read anything that challenges your reasoning

I'm not a "shade" of anyone.
 now i did read what you put up here, but in now way does it dispute what i feel is the truth, its actually quite pointless.
    if YOU were to maybe do a little research you might find the truth, i dont know who in the government did the towers, but it was an inside job. im sorry, but the truth hurts.


This guy might be on a jury some day. God bless america.

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