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Offline LePaul

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« Reply #45 on: June 01, 2007, 05:18:43 PM »
My biggest complaint with my sleep is waking up with a sore shoulder.  Im 1 month into a newer, softer bed.  If I sleep on my back, no problem...but I almost always wind up on my side.  If I sleep on my left side, my right arm is sore as hell in the morning.  This has gone on for a few weeks.  I dont know if its how I drape my arm or what.  

Am I going crazy or do other people wake up sore like this?

Maybe I need more time to adjust from a super firm, ancient mattress to this new Serta perfect sleeper w/ pillow top thing?

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« Reply #46 on: June 01, 2007, 05:52:35 PM »
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Unless it's something that is stress related or I've had too much coffee before bedtime, I think of dark grey battleships on dark blue waters silently cruising to some point unknown extremely relaxing and helps me fall asleep very quickly.  Also, for some reason the image of a 109G firing up and taxiing for take off helps me fall asleep as well.  And I don't even much care for 109's but it's the only plane that helps me fall asleep.


The 109 being what It is I could see it puting you to sleep.

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« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2007, 08:35:00 PM »
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Did you know your squadie was a Sleep Study Director?
LOL Had no idea. Early on I found out Simaril was a physician, but not what his specialty was. Heck for all I knew he was a brain surgeon. :) We are fortunate to have several in our squad that are in the medical field (an OBGYN, Anaesthesiologist, and an Optometrist) How we let dogma in I will never know. ;)

I wake up sore some times, but for me it is due to sleeping in the same position and not moving for an hour or more. I had sore (sometimes really sore) shoulders or neck pain, but that was when I would sleep on my side and stay in the position.
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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2007, 11:33:51 AM »
Well I have had my sleep study done and gotten the results. I have been diagnosed as having severe central sleep apnea. I also have obstructive apeneas and hypopneas.

Yesterday I brought home a CPAP to use for 3 days. This one has software that detects an apnea or hypopnea and then determines the least amount of air pressure required to get me to resume breathing. On Friday I will take this one back, they will dl the infos from it and set the pressure on my permanent CPAP.

I didn't find the mask or air pressure annoying at all. My wife said that not only did I not snore at all but I didn't toss and turn all night either. I woke up this morning feeling refreshed and alert. I honestly can't recall the last time that happened.

I also woke up without my nose being congested. I could actually breath through my nose. My CPAP has a humidifier on it and my technician said the humidifier would help with the congestion in my nose as well. I just didn't expect this much help. :)

Thanks for making the original post Daddog. If not for that I might never have gone to the doctor.
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« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2007, 11:41:27 AM »
I've been having trouble getting a good night's sleep recently.  I assumed it was due to my aching back, but last night (early this morning) I woke up numerous times.  I couldn't figure it out until my wife said "If you don't move that Blackberry out of here or turn it off at night I'm smashing it".

I looked at my emails.

I received a spam email almost every hour throughout the night and my phone is set to vibrate.  It is enough to wake me up hearing it I suspect, but it must have stopped buzzing before I became aware that it is what woke me up.

It's going off tonight.
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« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2007, 12:32:44 PM »
Daddog,
Great post!  I think this might be the most helpful thread in AH BBS history.  

Simaril,
Thanks for your expertise as well.  Although I don’t think this stuff applies to me I find if very interesting and something to watch out for.  

I drive home from work with the windows open, even in the winter, to keep from falling asleep.  The only place I’m ever really concerned is at a 3 minute traffic light; I put the car in park just to be safe.  I’ve done the head bob thing at that light at least a dozen times in the past few years.  

I have my own sleep issue: I fold my arms while I sleep and hyper extend my wrists and cut off the circulation to my hands.  I wake up regularly because my hands are asleep.   I actually mounted my camera on the ceiling and set it to do a time lapse so I could see how I sleep.   I think I learned more by having the camera flash wake me up dozens of times; I immediately focused on what I was doing with my hands.  I think I have a blood flow issue too because occasionally my feet fall asleep too.

LePaul,
Try sleeping on a carpeted floor once.  If you feel better than normal your mattress probably is too soft.  We went from a pillow top to the hardest regular mattress the store had; it was a big improvement.  IMO, all mattresses feel good when you first lay on them, what counts is how you wake up.  You can’t really learn that in a store.  I also have the sore shoulder thing at times.  I find it helps if I pull a pillow into my chest so that my arm drapes over it.  Try hugging a pillow in bed or in your case perhaps R2-D2.  :)

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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2007, 08:49:23 PM »
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I drive home from work with the windows open, even in the winter, to keep from falling asleep.  The only place I’m ever really concerned is at a 3 minute traffic light; I put the car in park just to be safe.  I’ve done the head bob thing at that light at least a dozen times in the past few years.  

I have my own sleep issue: I fold my arms while I sleep and hyper extend my wrists and cut off the circulation to my hands.  I wake up regularly because my hands are asleep.   I actually mounted my camera on the ceiling and set it to do a time lapse so I could see how I sleep.   I think I learned more by having the camera flash wake me up dozens of times; I immediately focused on what I was doing with my hands.  I think I have a blood flow issue too because occasionally my feet fall asleep too.
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Eskimo:

When you watched your time lapse, did you see lots of arm and leg movements? We all toss and turn some, but there are people who have a movement disorder of sleep that causes them to jerk, kick, extend, or tighten arms and legs through the night. The movements themselves can cause them to jump to lighter sleep, and can leave them tired from the poor quality sleep. Sometimes this is caused by iron deficiency, but if you've had this chronically its more likely "just the way you are" -- like some people have high cholesterol despite good diet. The problem is called Periodic Limb Movement Disorder; about 20% of people who have PLMD also have Restless Leg Syndrome, which is an uncomfortable feeling when AWAKE but drowsy. (Lots of Requip ads for this lately.) RLS meds tend to work well for PLMD too.


Other things that come to mind are Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, which can be worse during the night when people tend to bend at the wrist. That can cause the hands and forearms to get the tingling numb "falling asleep" feeling that most people blame on circulation. (It's actually much more likely to be from nerve compression, by the way. Circulation problems tend to cause color change, and outright PAIN rather than tingling...and they are much more likely to have symptoms when awake and using the muscles, which demands more blood flow than when you're asleep.)

Even if it isnt carpal tunnel, one way to minimize the unconscious tendency to bend the wrists over in your sleep is to use a carpal tunnel style brace at night. These are simple wrist braces that extend a little onto the palm, so you can't bend the wrist over enough to pinch either the nerve or the artery. They might help you out.

If arms and legs are both involved, I also wonder about any nerve compression at the level of the neck. Neck pain, or electric shock "stingers" when you move a certain way, can be clues about either slipped disks in the neck, or calcium deposits from past trauma or arthritis or whatever. Sometimes these problems show up in the night because we hold the neck in different positions and angles than in the day.



Regardless, take that sleepiness VERY seriously. Most fatal accidents are connected with excessive sleepiness, for the simple reason that drivers who are unconscious can't do ANYTHING to avoid oncoming bad stuff. Even drunks may realize at the last minute, " thats a bridge!!" I've had a mother of 4, without any sleep disorder at all, drift out of lane after an all night drive home from vacation....leaving her husband a widower and her kids motherless. (They were in the car and saw her bleed to death.) If you're as sleepy as the average person with 5 solid hours of sleep, then you're as dangerous as if you were drunk.
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