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Offline halcyon

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« Reply #225 on: June 03, 2007, 07:20:41 PM »
What's sad is we can talk ourselves blue in the face posting all these great ideas in this thread (many I agree with), yet HTC won't do a damn thing about any of it.

How long have people been asking for new maps? Has anything been done? Nope. (well actually yeah, they took AWAY maps)
How many times have people asked for arena merging? Did HTC say anything on behalf of this issue? Nope.

I've already switched from thinking, "HTC is just slow" to "HTC is the very definition of Apathy."

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« Reply #226 on: June 03, 2007, 07:22:18 PM »
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Theres plenty of room in the AvA for 4 full squads to fight it out.Why can't you organize your squad and other squads to go in there and fight?


AvA???    :rolleyes: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rolleyes:
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« Reply #227 on: June 03, 2007, 07:24:28 PM »
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Originally posted by halcyon
What's sad is we can talk ourselves blue in the face posting all these great ideas in this thread (many I agree with), yet HTC won't do a damn thing about any of it.

How long have people been asking for new maps? Has anything been done? Nope. (well actually yeah, they took AWAY maps)
How many times have people asked for arena merging? Did HTC say anything on behalf of this issue? Nope.

I've already switched from thinking, "HTC is just slow" to "HTC is the very definition of Apathy."


Yea HT always responds well to insults.

:rolleyes:

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« Reply #228 on: June 03, 2007, 07:38:23 PM »
My comments in All Caps and brackets

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Originally posted by BaldEagl


1.  Bring the big maps back to LW.    
     [YES]

2.  Combine EW and MW into one arena, limit the MW plane-set and only allow small maps in the new combined arena.
      [DON'T CARE]

3.  Reserve a spot in the arena for a player who is disco'd from that arena  for a limited time.
      [YES]

4.  Allow a player to enter any arena if his/her country is the smallest, regardless of cap.
      [YES!!!]

5.  Allow a player to enter any arena that contains a majority of their squad members regardless of cap.
      [YES!!!]

6.  Make ENY front specific rather than arena-wide.
      [BETTER, BUT STILL A DOG EITHER WAY]

7.  Bring "missing" maps back into rotation (i.e. Mindnao).
      [YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

8.  Put different maps into rotation in each arena (with both big and small maps available there should be plenty to keep the map-sets different for different arenas).
      [YES]

9.  Bring back weekly map re-sets.
      [YES]

10.  Never allow the same map to be up in more than one arena at a time (or #8 would also solve this).
      [YES]


As an addition to address milkrunning in the EW and MW arenas for score, make scores and stats arena specifc by type.  

i.e.  EW one set, MW one set, and BOTH LW arenas one set.

Now, scores and stats are representative of the type of environment in which they are acrued.
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« Reply #229 on: June 03, 2007, 07:49:23 PM »
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That would be some thing to try for a kick. Sure would make things alot tougher.

I wouldn't like to see the EW/MW go. Its quite fun hunting for milking bombers. I would like to see the numbers higher in those arenas, but I do remember when the EW was new, there were ALOT of SpitVs.


No offensive, but let me point out that this is just milkrunning for bomber kills.  Yes, you still have to brave the buffs defensive fire, but you are less likely to see or be interrupted by fighter escorts, nor run into multiple buff formations.  It's really just lapping from the same milk saucer.  
;)
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« Reply #230 on: June 03, 2007, 07:53:32 PM »
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Originally posted by halcyon
What's sad is we can talk ourselves blue in the face posting all these great ideas in this thread (many I agree with), yet HTC won't do a damn thing about any of it.

How long have people been asking for new maps? Has anything been done? Nope. (well actually yeah, they took AWAY maps)
How many times have people asked for arena merging? Did HTC say anything on behalf of this issue? Nope.

I've already switched from thinking, "HTC is just slow" to "HTC is the very definition of Apathy."


Wow. Do you say asinine things like this to people's faces in real life or does the anonymity of the internet make you brave?

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« Reply #231 on: June 03, 2007, 08:01:57 PM »
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heres the best idea of all....find another game like i did and stop giving HTC your $15 a month untill he changes this problem...yeah theres one


Best news I've heard in a long time.  What game did you go to, so I can avoid it?

P.S. What did you get kicked out for this time.  lol
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« Reply #232 on: June 03, 2007, 08:14:18 PM »
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AvA???    :rolleyes: :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rolleyes:


Most people will never know what a GOOD time can be had in the Axis Vs. Allies Arena.Then again most arn't looking for a damn good time they are looking for some EASY kills and thier wittle name up in lights.

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« Reply #233 on: June 03, 2007, 08:37:38 PM »
this game is by far the greatest game ever made

 no its not perfect, but damm it sure is fun...

only game,  ever to give me that adrenaline rush...

ive hit 140 mph in a 73 dodge challenger and that made my whole body shake....

   every time i fly Aces High, i get the rush



   :D

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« Reply #234 on: June 03, 2007, 08:38:38 PM »
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I would like to see what hitech does in regards to gameplay by listening to the remainder of his 99% of his customers, not including the 1% that post on the forum. I doubt that the people on this forum represent the current thoughts about the game or the direction the game should be heading.


IMO you are wrong.  First, the people who post (no matter what side of an issue) are the small minority of a much larger group who (to varying degrees, depending on specific issue) do not know, like or otherwise care to post in the forum.

For example, my squad has 40+ members, and I know from direct conversation on our website and during squad nights that most are much less happy with AH now than prior to the arena split, but only 4-5 of us ever post regularly in this forum.  

Same for other countrymen, who still complain about some of these issues like ENY and arena caps throughout any day or time I care to play.  Certainly, fewer initiate talking about ENY or arena caps anymore as it's obvious nothing is going to change.  However, when someone does get frustrated and mentions it over channel, there is always several agreeing response from players.  

All of which suggests that for the major issues, the most common opinions or suggestions or complaints being offered are very likely the position of a great many more active players than you might think.

In other words, what you see on the forum in terms of a opinion or position on a major issue is only a small sampling of a greater population of players who agree with it.  This is of course, true for all sides of that issue, but gage the relative community support (with a grain of salt) by how large the sampling is for each side.

Based on that, I believe that in the beginning of these issies, and even now, the number of players (minus 2-weekers and newbs still learning the basics) who oppose or dislike split arenas and restictive arena caps, smaller maps and redundant rotation, radical ENY shifts and more side imbalance than before is far greater than anyone suspects, and far larger than those that are perfectly happy with the way things are.
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« Reply #235 on: June 03, 2007, 08:52:55 PM »
400 +caps for north american prime time players  is still MM and fun

120-200 caps for euro prime time players,or US, am players and the suspicious unoficial butting disco harasement, to fill up other arenas,  is ridiculos and unfair double standard for same $

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« Reply #236 on: June 03, 2007, 09:04:15 PM »
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400 +caps for north american prime time players  is still MM and fun

suspicious unoficial butting disco harasement, $


Ghi, I've had my suspicions about this.  What are your thoughts?

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« Reply #237 on: June 03, 2007, 09:38:34 PM »
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400 +caps for north american prime time players  is still MM and fun

120-200 caps for euro prime time players,or US, am players and the suspicious unoficial butting disco harasement, to fill up other arenas,  is ridiculos and unfair double standard for same $


I RARELY see the caps get to be 400 , I usually see the 120-220 ish range.
Usually the JV.44 manage to fly together reguardless of cap though, because we will all move to the most convienent arena that still has room in it.

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« Reply #238 on: June 03, 2007, 09:46:51 PM »
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When did this topic become about rank? This is about trying to fly with your friends and you can't without alot of hassle. Which is my main beef. Why build a squad to 32 peeps so you can have maybe 5-6 that can actually fly with you. Then when you do all get together and someone either loses connection or has to relog for any reason (Usually Vox going out) they get capped out. So the solution is to have everyone else switch to the arena that he can get into? We end up fighting the game itself more than IN the game. Try taking 10 squaddies into ew or mw and see what happens to eny. Seems kinda pointless to me.
There are alot of peeps with some great ideas in here ( I really like some of baldeagle's Ideas) I'm just not sure what can be implemented that is fair to everyone. If you have an Idea post it. Got a smart remark? Go bother someone else. This isn't a pissin match post. But some just can't resist the temptation.


You are asking for ideas? ok, I have one:

Only 5-6 of your squaddies can fly with you not all 32? I suggest to limit the size of the squad to 5. Or even better - remove squads completely. I am flying alone, and current set up works great for me. I don't want and don't need squads. Why I have to change something what is working just fine or support this change because it doesn't allow you to fly with your myrmidons?
You don't like some aspects of this game, and you are asking about ideas how to change this. I like the same aspects what you dislike. It is public forum , and I just want to let HTC know that there are some paying players who are not supporting your ideas, and really like current set up as it is.

Nothing personal.

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« Reply #239 on: June 03, 2007, 10:18:01 PM »
Vad, some like myself prefer the fratenal bonds of a squadron, and the comradery that it breeds.  Some such as yourself prefer to go freelance.  Both are equally valid points and counter points, and that is what makes this AHII experience so great is if you seek a squad you can have one and stay alon if you do not.  Something for everyone so to speak.  He was merely stating his frustration at not being able to have an easily facilitated "squad night" due to dynamic arena caps and not bashing the game as it stands currently.  Remember the diversity in this game is the verry asset that makes it a great and unduplicated passtime.