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Offline Platano

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« Reply #30 on: June 04, 2007, 05:53:38 AM »
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Wasnt there a huge power outage for on the east coast for like a week a few years back. A week w/o AH, I think alot of people will have mental breakdowns.


No TK it was only for like the whole afternoon and it returned by midnight...
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« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2007, 05:56:50 AM »
:confused: i thought it was because someone was tripping over the server cord :noid
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2007, 06:02:07 AM »
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You cannot just slap in a generator into a commercial property.  There are zoning restrictions which have to be met (a concrete slab is required, along with a fenced area to hide it, just for starters) and we do not own the building.  Just FYI.

The weather has been unusually active this last week.  We usually get hit with this once a year.  Looks like we have a couple more days to weather before returning to the normal Texas weather patterns.


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« Reply #33 on: June 04, 2007, 06:05:26 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: June 04, 2007, 06:38:09 AM »
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HTC should move to NYC :D :aok :D


Then this sorta thing wouldnt happen :D



New York City!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????

Get a rope.

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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2007, 06:40:22 AM »
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before returning to the normal Texas weather patterns.


:aok

Only us Texans will understand the evilness and hidden humor with this statement. :rofl
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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2007, 07:03:04 AM »
It still amazes me how people think a generator will fix storm related outages.
Natural gas for the generator, pumped with what? uh...e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y? A tank would not be the perfect answer because of the amount of fuel needed to keep the system running.

 A backup phone system? Hmmm...there it is again....e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y! How long will your energizers last before they have to be changed?

Realize something folks, if your power goes off it is safe to assume that:
A: Your computer is off.
B: Your cable connection is dead(amplifiers have limited battery backup)
C: Your telephone is or will shortly be dead(junction points have limited battery backup)
D: Gas systems cant pump gas if there is no electricity..i.e.pumping stations use ELECTRIC pumps


If all of that happens, take a moment and be thankful that the power companies have folks out working in the storm to restore power. It could be a lot like the phone companies who are generally given 24-48 hours by state legislatures to make repairs.

 I know there are other electric workers on this site, ask them. If HTC was down 7 hours due to a storm, so be it, a fishing I will go!

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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2007, 07:07:23 AM »
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It still amazes me how people think a generator will fix storm related outages.
Natural gas for the generator, pumped with what? uh...e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y? A tank would not be the perfect answer because of the amount of fuel needed to keep the system running.

 A backup phone system? Hmmm...there it is again....e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y! How long will your energizers last before they have to be changed?

Realize something folks, if your power goes off it is safe to assume that:
A: Your computer is off.
B: Your cable connection is dead(amplifiers have limited battery backup)
C: Your telephone is or will shortly be dead(junction points have limited battery backup)
D: Gas systems cant pump gas if there is no electricity..i.e.pumping stations use ELECTRIC pumps


If all of that happens, take a moment and be thankful that the power companies have folks out working in the storm to restore power. It could be a lot like the phone companies who are generally given 24-48 hours by state legislatures to make repairs.

 I know there are other electric workers on this site, ask them. If HTC was down 7 hours due to a storm, so be it, a fishing I will go!


I spent the afternoon workin on a couple of airplane models, defragged the HD, did some laundry, TS Barry was passing through so any outdoor stuff was out. Watched Flying Leathernecks...all in all a great afternoon.

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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2007, 07:27:19 AM »
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Then the only thing that would bring the system down is if the telephone lines went down or the gas line ruptured.


Hurrrrr???

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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2007, 12:09:11 PM »
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Natural gas for the generator, pumped with what? uh...e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y? A tank would not be the perfect answer because of the amount of fuel needed to keep the system running.


Unlike upstate SC, we do not use tanks for natural gas, works just fine when the powers out. The other issues skuzzy mentioned would be the problem.

Telephones have always worked when the powers out too, unless you have a cordless phone with a base station that needs power.
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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2007, 12:37:58 PM »
lmao  what do Telephone Lines have to do with the Power Needed to supply the Server, the Router, the Hubs, Answering Machines?  When your power goes out, and your phone works, can YOU get online?

Nhawk, your solution works, if Every Link in the network chain had a backup generator.  They don't.  Even if HT did, and the next link in their chain was down as well, they are stuffed.  


Come on people, it was a power outage for crying out loud, they happen

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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2007, 12:56:54 PM »
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It still amazes me how people think a generator will fix storm related outages.
Natural gas for the generator, pumped with what? uh...e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y? A tank would not be the perfect answer because of the amount of fuel needed to keep the system running.

 A backup phone system? Hmmm...there it is again....e-l-e-c-t-r-i-c-i-t-y! How long will your energizers last before they have to be changed?

Realize something folks, if your power goes off it is safe to assume that:
A: Your computer is off.
B: Your cable connection is dead(amplifiers have limited battery backup)
C: Your telephone is or will shortly be dead(junction points have limited battery backup)
D: Gas systems cant pump gas if there is no electricity..i.e.pumping stations use ELECTRIC pumps


If all of that happens, take a moment and be thankful that the power companies have folks out working in the storm to restore power. It could be a lot like the phone companies who are generally given 24-48 hours by state legislatures to make repairs.

 I know there are other electric workers on this site, ask them. If HTC was down 7 hours due to a storm, so be it, a fishing I will go!
Sim, I don't know where you live but when electricity goes out here phone works no matter how long the power is out and so does natural gas.

When power went out last winter I was cozy warm with a natural gas fireplace.

One of my first jobs was designing transfer panels that automatically switch to generator power when the main power goes down. And those systems are still used today by data centers, hospitals, police stations, phone companies, homes and thousands of other places.

Now if you are talking about a nation wide power outage, that could be a problem. But for a local power outage, it was a legitimate suggestion except for the reasons Skuzzy stated. Do some research next time.
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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2007, 01:30:57 PM »
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Do some research next time.


hehe SIM probably made that post from his laptop, while out restoring power, which is what he does for the power company.
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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2007, 01:35:29 PM »
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The withdrawal was harsh for me..How long did it last like couple of hours?

I didnt know what to do....

Found myself pacing back n forth with visions of a 109 disenigrating a spitfire 200 in front of it....

Had to sit down, relax, and pick up a book...:(



u know how to read? hehe
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« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2007, 01:48:17 PM »
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hehe SIM probably made that post from his laptop, while out restoring power, which is what he does for the power company.
I won't even go there. :rofl
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