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« Reply #75 on: June 05, 2007, 06:07:24 PM »
all the teams are basicly the same,  there too varied to say that one is this and one is that,  

  they all have great "sticks",  

and they all have  "whinners"
 they all have   "horders"
 
"furballers"    {this is where i fit in}
"milk runners"
"noobs"
"squeakers"
"HOers"
"alt monkeys"
"vulchers"
"pickers"
"GVers"
and some people, you just want to knock the ***** out of :
cough cough cough storch cough cough cough
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« Reply #76 on: June 05, 2007, 08:14:19 PM »
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You sir...with all due respect....haven't a clue.

There are SEVERAL squads on the Knights that do very good work. As was listed above.

(Me for one). I make more perks flying a few sorties than I make in a reset. And , I personally enjoy a fight WAY more than Deacking...porking troops...porking ords....killing innocent buildings...and all that stuff. BUT....The squad I am in when we decide we want to capture a base WILL get it done with no help from any other squads.

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And you sir, No disrespect, Is Exactly Why Were In This Discussion;

When The Knights Fight As A Team: WE WIN.

Its the minor Incoviences, like teamwork, hence why I started a squad. I play with fellow members who prefer the base/win aspect. What I would like to do is bring the specialization of other squads to our need. Ofcourse FSO/Close Escorts is a great mission Orientated thing too.

The Bottom Line again is YOU, pay/play how you would like or feel at the moment, and its summer. So realistically. If you see a mission orientated squad post a mission you may not like the plane set, the base is alwas posted in the mission rooster.

For the most part, Precision will alwas run missions. We enjoy em. We would like to see more co-operation, and there has been, but the bottom line is, THIS IS A GAME, THAT YOU PAY FOR. Get your money's worth.

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Forgot who said this while trying to take a base, but the quote goes like this. "I cant help you with ack, Im not in attack mode" This is with only 2 ack up in the town while troops were there, waiting. The rest of the town was down.

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« Reply #77 on: June 05, 2007, 08:54:58 PM »
I believe we are witnessing the general consensus of the AH community that the knights suffer from a lack of co-ordination / co-operation^^^^

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« Reply #78 on: June 05, 2007, 09:16:28 PM »
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I believe we are witnessing the general consensus of the AH community that the knights suffer from a lack of co-ordination / co-operation^^^^


That very well could be. My post was simply to point out that there ARE squads on Knights that can do things.

I may have stpped on some toes , but , to state that because others may just like the yank and bank...the fights...the squad sorties in fighters to establish a cap per se' being lackig in the Brain Department is a bit misguided.

It's quite possible that the guys that enjoy fighting for the fights and ACM have been there and done that in the land grabbing department. I've done my share of it I know.

Every country has its lil differances , but generally they are all pretty close to being the same.

Blanket statements and pretty much not giving credit to SEVERAL squads on the Knight Land Grabbing Company is what I was basically calling out.
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« Reply #79 on: June 05, 2007, 09:26:32 PM »
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You sir...with all due respect....haven't a clue.

There are SEVERAL squads on the Knights that do very good work. As was listed above.

I been flying Knights for almost my entire time in AH. I flew Rooks about 6 months off and on but in the 5 years I been in AH Knights have been just about it. I have never flown Bish.

The Knights have some very well put together land grabbin squads. SO does the other 2 countries.

The Knights have some pure fighter squads. (Like the one I'm in) who could care less about grabbin land and getting perks for thier efforts at reset time. (Me for one). I make more perks flying a few sorties than I make in a reset. And , I personally enjoy a fight WAY more than Deacking...porking troops...porking ords....killing innocent buildings...and all that stuff. BUT....The squad I am in when we decide we want to capture a base WILL get it done with no help from any other squads.

Rooks have the best pure fighter jocks of the countries. Loose squads that just fight for the fight as well. THey work well, together and I die to them OFTEN. They also can steam rool a country in short oreder when they put thier minds to it and the right bunch gets hooked up and rollin.

Bish.....I have no clue what to say about the Bish other that oWHINERo and company are there and I like tickin em off.


Why do you guys always assume, land grabbing is about perks? Just like it might be fun to shoot down fighters in a furball, it can also be fun to defend a base, or capture a base.

I had over 20 base captures myself last tour, every single one of them was in the LW arenas. I could care less about perks for the most part. When I'm flying a fighter it's normally a A6m,a ki84 or a ki61.. I can typically get 5 to 10 perks pretty easy in a single sortie.

Honestly I get a hell of a lot "less" perks doing base captures and my score goes to hell as well from base captures. However I like running missions and joining other good missions to capture  bases. I think it can be fun to try to do a suprise attack or over-power the other team by suprise.  

If I wanted perks I would just go furball all the time. Instead I have fun playing lots of aspects of the game. No matter it be GV'ing.. Furballing , Land grabbing or the occasional bomber runs.

I just don't see why you guys always think resets are about perks. A reset to me is normally about winning (yea I like to win.. sorry) or just what it's called "resetting" a map I'm tired of playing (in hopes to get a new one).

Personally about the only aspect of the game I don't do very often is all out furballing. Simple reason is because I don't enjoy having to fight 20 other guys for a few kills and end up with 5 assists for my effort.. I'd rather fight against 4 or 5 enemy fighters than be one of 5 fighters chasing the same con hoping to be the lucky one to score the kill..

If I'm in the mood to do a little AC I typically look for the other team's horde and fly the out skirts of it looking for a little one on one action. Honestly if it wasn't for the hoards this game would be a hell of a lot more fun in regards to actually doing aerial combat. (I don't really think of furballs as real AC)

Sorry for the rant.. but I get irritated when people just assume that people like me whom like to win a war, capture a base or defend one just do it to get a crappy 25 perks. It would be like me saying furballers only furball because they want people to give them hi fives for landing 10 kills.
« Last Edit: June 05, 2007, 09:33:26 PM by crockett »
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« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2007, 11:21:55 PM »
Lately I have been taking bombers up to 20,000 to 30,000 feet (I am a Rook) and for me it's about bombing (I liked the old style calibration- versus what we have now) and if I do encounter a fighter up that high, it tends to be  a good one and then things get interesting and because "I" am having fun up there, I will be doing it more often. (Radars and Troops beware)

I am using high altitude against those who spend most of their time at low altitude, if you don't spend alot of time up there you don't realise how much difference there is in the flight envelope of the planes. They are also sitting ducks if the climb directly on my six :)

So, if you can utilize an advantage available to everyone, but others choose not to use it, then why is it wrong?

Rooks are looking for air to air for the most part, but will get together in a loose gaggle for a base capture and I like working with the skilled GV units when I am in a ground attack mode.

Bishops seem to level everything as far back as they can reach and capture using overwhelming numbers and there seem's to be a fair number of HO mongers amongst them.

Knights haven't really been doing much against them, so don't have an informed opinion.

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« Reply #81 on: June 06, 2007, 03:06:39 AM »
Yarbles I started out flying for the Bish, switched to Rooks, and have been here ever since. There are a lot of folks that have been around the game longer than me, are more experienced than me, better pilots than I and some (if not all of them here) have given some very insightful thoughts into what it means to be a Bishop, Rook or Knight. I them!

This being said, and absolutely no disrespect meant to any of my esteemed colleagues, I think they may have missed the most important answer to your question. It's not country, it's the SQUAD! My squad  flies  for the Rooks right now, and we tend to stay put. We have not, as a squad, started "country switching", but that wouldn't bother me near as much as not flying with the guys.

Now I know you have to be in a country before being accepted into a squad, but I would advise anyone that once they were in a squad, show your loyalty to THEM first, and the "chess piece" second. If that means staying with  the squad while it "switches" to another country, then so be it.  As long as your happy where your at, that's what counts!


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« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2007, 04:28:04 AM »
Sticks head inside door

Looks around....................... ....................












What'd I miss ??


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« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2007, 11:39:59 AM »
Yarbles,

Flying with people you like and who like you is a must.

Meet the pilots from all countries.

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« Reply #84 on: June 06, 2007, 12:44:47 PM »
Been here 3 months.

Started out Knights in EW.  Switched to Bishops to see the difference mostly in Orange and Purple MA.  The other day, switched to Rooks.  

I joined a Bishop squad that no matter where I went, their squad name ID went with me. (Nice squad decal on the cowl!)  I read the boards a lot, some Knight group offered advice to a noobie for training and foolishly dropped their vox channel publically.  I was currently Bishop in a tank area and switched to their channel for intel.  2 hours later they noticed me and my squad affiliation and went to their secondary com channel.  

I like to be independent.  Like has been stated, I tend to like the underdog, but I also like activity.  So if one side is dead, I go to another side.  It does seem to me the Rooks are much better organized, though, as team spirit.

I'm a loner by nature.  I'm not much fond of the social groupy thing.  I find no matter what country I'm fighting for, the other guys bond together as a team to help each other out.

No disrespect by me about stuff I've learned here from other guys, any country.  The highest respect a guy could give me is a good run for anything I may show somebody in a combat sortie.  I really get super PO'd sometimes getting bettered by a good player, but it is just a !@#$%^&* game.  And score doesn't matter or so they say---is BS!  

If it's red, shoot it.  Whether he used to be a buddy doesn't matter to me and no hard feelings if you shoot me down, either.

I want to get good and have fun and NOT stagnate!

Each arena should have separate squad affiliation availability so a person can have variety.  Otherwise, I'll be a free agent to the highest bidder...

This tour I started out serious to get a good looking score.   But like tanking  spawn vultures, I get so PO'd at guys I keep coming back to get immediately killed again just maybe I can get a round off and kill him, so I keep trying; really screws up my score!!  Score matters.  Heck, baseball batting averages are less specific as here how HTC rates the score stats.

And maybe HTC thinks it is all about aerial combat; but the guys say it is all about taking bases.

As to furballs, my side drops the fighters' hangers to the opposing force I take as my sole mission to find the guy on my side and shoot him down; if it is all about aerial combat.  Fighter hangers are life blood to a furball.

All I want is to get to be very good and find just one buddy that can back me up and me back him up!  Country doesn't matter via AH.   Country loyalty matters where you live.  Country loyalty matters if you took the oath.

If people like to dogfight and it is about aerial combat, why the MA.  Some pretty good stuff goes on in TA.  Is it you can't see the bad guy go poof or catch fire why MA is better?  Or is it about score?

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« Reply #85 on: June 06, 2007, 05:11:18 PM »
I think each one of them has their own good, bad & ugly (mostly good though).
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« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2007, 05:20:58 PM »
Some pretty good reads:

The squad im in ( VF-31) did country tour a while back spending a month as Knights and a month as Rooks.

Each country has their differences in style of play, skills of players and overall coordination.

But  all in all it really doesnt matter for what side you fly, its how you want to fly that important.

However if your into base taking you have more opportunity do do this flying as Bish or Rook.

All sides will furball :aok

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« Reply #87 on: June 06, 2007, 05:28:11 PM »
i believe that we who injoy this game, no matter what we do in it, are part of a family, sect, i dont know:  call it what you want
 but if you fly old prop planes planes, your okay by me.

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« Reply #88 on: June 06, 2007, 05:44:03 PM »
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Lately I have been taking bombers up to [...] 30,000 feet (I am a Rook)


Now THERE'S a shocker!!!

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« Reply #89 on: June 06, 2007, 06:00:01 PM »
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As a Bish here's my perspective:

Rooks:  Grab the O2 mask to fight these guys.  Just when you thought 20K was safe you'll meet them at 22-23K.  If their not in the stratosphere they are mired in the muck furballing mindlessly away.  Rooks have more skilled pilots than Knights or Bish and are occasionally able to organize and steamroll fields as Bish and Knights pound away on each other, oblivious to the Rooks.
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